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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Here they are.

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    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/acti...-backs-up-trump-on-request-for-resources.html

    Acting FBI Director McCabe backs up Trump administration on one key detail
    • McCabe said he was unaware of any request for additional resources.
    • McCabe said if the FBI were to request more resources, it would ask Congress.
    • The acting FBI director told senators he believes the FBI has sufficient resources for the probe.
     
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    Here's another good one.

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    This is a day after every "credible" news outlet wrote that he had.
     
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    Did you bother reading any of those Denny and try to figure out why it was a story or did you just read something refuting it?
     
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    It looks to me like the media likes to rush to press with unfounded information, only to get busted the next day.

    And when it's Fox News that's the only one getting it righ, we're in big trouble.

    This is also democratic party talking points shattered into a gazillion pieces by the actual facts.
     
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    According to the congressional officials, the Senate Intelligence Committee learned of Mr. Comey’s request on Monday when Senators Burr and Warner asked the F.B.I. director to meet with them. They wanted him to accelerate the bureau’s investigation so they could press forward with theirs. Congressional investigators do not have the authority to collect intelligence that agencies like the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. possess.
    that is what it stems from. Also as for fox, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...e-resources-for-russia-probe-source-says.html
     
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    It turns out to be wrong. The acting head of the FBI outright refuted this bogus claim in public testimony, under oath, and in absolute terms.

    Does it bother you that as of this morning, the news hasn't changed to something like, "oops, we were wrong, here's the truth?"

    Instead, it's what I pasted in the opening post. Silence. Move on to the next outrageous lie.
     
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    The first two paragraphs of the article you linked:

    Fired FBI director James Comey recently asked lawmakers to help him secure more "resources" for the bureau's counterintelligence investigation of possible connections between President Trump's campaign team and Russian officials, sources told Fox News Wednesday.

    The Justice Department repeatedly denied Wednesday that Comey had asked Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to bolster the Russia probe.
     
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    CNN said live on the air that they had 30 sources all saying the same thing.

    Boy were they "fooled" (or outright lying).
     
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    It hast to do with the clickbait of it, most of those stories go on to say the justice department has refuted these claims and offer evidence against their clickbait headline but news uses those clickbait tactics to get you to the site and don't care if you actually read their article or not.
     
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    Clickbait lies.

    OK.

    You win.
     
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    I'v just gone through a ton of those and there are handful of people in the WH who were reported to have said that Comey wanted more resources. So i'm not sure what you want here, if its news site to admit they are wrong that wont happen. Articles that use clickbait to get people in then talk about what sources they have saying one thing and then go onto right about the other side as well. Sure there sources in this are probably wrong but they are giving two sides to the story. If its that the news is reporting lies then were you this offended when it was all over the place the last 8 years from right wing sites, especially Fox?
     
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    My point is the news ran with these TWO different stories and the actual sources (acting FBI director, Rosenstein) prove the stories to be wrong. And the press knows better not to run with these kinds of things without absolute proof.

    The first one, about requesting more resources, is significant because it is an attempt to smear the administration with obstruction of justice accusations.

    By repeating these falsehoods ON TV and in print, they leave the impression that the headlines are true. These headlines aren't just in print, they're on the scrolling and static banners at the bottom of CNN news and MSNBC.

    Another "clickbait" is the similarity to watergate - which gets a big LOL out of me. FWIW, I'd fully admit it if I thought Trump or his administration were doing something illegal, and would call for his impeachment myself.

    It is a really big deal that the press is caught in two obvious lies here. If we want a democracy where the media does hold the government to account, it can't be making up lies and using them to attempt to bring it down.

    There's also the crying wolf issue. At some point, if people realize they're lying all along, if there is an actual true claim of illegality, it's hard to believe non-credible media sources.
     
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    Media are puppets of the Democratic Party. They should be nobody's puppets and report the truth.

    This is opinion and labeled as such (we believe).

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-russia-circus-will-drag-on-without-comey-1494622091?mod=e2two

    Here’s how the Russia inquiry would have played out, we believe, before the firing of James Comey. Mike Flynn would have been rung up on lobbying charges, probably related to Turkey, not Russia. The government might have found a tax bill to lay against Paul Manafort related to decade-old payments from a Russian oligarch. And surely Carter Page jaywalked or double-parked or used an expired MetroCard on his way to a meeting about some business deal that would have violated sanctions if it had any chance of coming to fruition.

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    This charge, let’s remember, first entered the public domain in a big way from the mouth of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, seeking to distract from his own crass error in letting his email be hacked.​
     
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    I couldn't disagree with you more. The most watched news channel Fox, is NOTHING but propaganda for the republican party.
     
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    I don't know what's true yet. My guess is it's somewhere between official request for increase funding and no request at all. Sounds like the topic was at least broached with some lawmakers. But I don't know
     
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    RT is a more reliable source in current events than most of the main stream American media.
    China new also.
     
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    I couldn't agree more about Fox. That's why when they're the only ones who are getting it right, it's VERY scary.
     
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