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  1. riverman

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    I'm assuming nobody is getting it right until they are assured of job security...only yes men will survive in Trump's camp. As to any news media having 30 sources with the same slant on a story...well...there are plenty of journalists who copy homework to meet a deadline.....is the media biased? When your president declares you the enemy you're going to throw some punches....this is not a normal diplomatic cabinet by any stretch....Trump lies, backtracks and calls everyone looking at him a liar or incompetent.....when you start a presidency claiming nothing but "fake" news and wielding it like wall to hide behind...you lose credibility....in the current political climate, Trump lost credibility with a large sector of Americans....not just democrats. Karma is a bitch...I hope Comey opens some doors and exposes the man behind the curtain or woman....he has nothing to lose now....Trump has slandered him...maybe making enemies from guys like him isn't such a good move for Donald...some guys don't take to bullying kindly..especially intelligence directors
     
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    I didn't make this a thread about Trump's good and evil. It's about the press not doing its job, and outright lying.
     
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    March 20th his approval ratings were 37% ...historically the worst in such a short stretch of time...if you don't tell the truth, people dump you....even people who voted for him....seems one camp really wants to bury the truth about the guy and just keep kicking dirt on the already dead democratic party....
     
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    the press is a lot of things....actually global...plenty of great journalists without partisan leanings but let's ignore them eh? You have to be a zen monk to interview Trump and not react to his taunts...
     
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    Kasich said recently that we are witnessing the end of partisan politics forever......one can only hope.
     
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    that's way too general....if a public journalist lies and it's about someone like the President where's the lawsuit....where's the slander? Trump is facing many lawsuits right now...that's part of the conversation. You don't think Trump would let that slide do you? He still fights with Rosie O'Donell....this guy doesn't quit.
     
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    His approval is UP 5 points since then in the gallup polls, which have been the lowest reported for Trump since Jan 20.

    Where are those headlines? Lying by omission.

    Again, please keep this about the media, not to rant for or against the president.
     
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    Except:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/us/trump-university-settlement.html?_r=0
     
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    this is just why you cannot separate the media's current climate and not address Trump....he declares them the enemy and his supporters declare them all democrats....dysfunction does not breed balance...we have a president who insults everyone....ran a campaign doing it. free pass? There are in fact shoddy journalists who run Nat'l Enquirer quality stories to get some ink.....that's never changed...ever read the Conservative magazine? Those are also journalists. So it's ok to just cite journalists who agree with a guy and just lump a vast majority of media coverage as "fake news"........this doesn't hold water with me...I read stuff and don't need to draw a line in the sand to find news articles that make sense to me. I'm tired of it all being discounted as if there's no truth in print.
     
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    We can. We have plenty of threads about Trump's temperament, his accomplishments and lack thereof.

    I'm not citing articles that agree with any particular position, just the ones that are clearly wrong and lies, and the ones that prove these wrong and lies.
     
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    How about this whopper?

    https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15628276/trump-comey-fired-russia

    Trump has now admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation

    What trump actually said was that he fired Comey in spite of it likely to prolong any investigation, and that he wanted it done right and to completion. That the firing was in the peoples' best interest. This is the actual context from the interview that Vox uses for its lie:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ey-whether-he-was-under-investigation-n757821


    "As far as I'm concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly," Trump said. "Maybe I'll expand that, you know, lengthen the time (of the Russia probe) because it should be over with, in my opinion, should have been over with a long time ago. 'Cause all it is, is an excuse but I said to myself, I might even lengthen out the investigation, but I have to do the right thing for the American people."
     
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    Approve + no opinion adds up to 61%

    I'd vote no opinion, myself, but I certainly don't "disapprove" by definition.


    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ust-29-percent-approve-trump-s-firing-n759196

    NBC/WSJ Poll: Just 29 Percent Approve of Trump’s Firing of James Comey

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/05/15/poll-trump-approval-comey-fired/22086379/

    Poll: Trump's approval dips lower, massive disapproval of decision to fire Comey

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/14/politics/nbc-wsj-poll/

    Poll: Comey's firing gets low approval; Trump's support unmoved
     
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    In contrast to NBC, WSJ reports on their joint poll:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-trump-embraces-controversy-the-stakes-get-higher-1494858956

    On the other hand, there is compelling evidence that the Comey business hasn't resonated outside of Washington the way it has inside. A weekend Wall Street Journal/NB News poll found that, while 38% of those surveyed disapproved of the Comey firing, and 29% approved, abut one-third said they didn't have an opinion.

    Views were shaped by party affiliation; Democrats tended to disapprove, while Mr. Trump has won the support of Republicans. Only 3% of Trump voters disapproved. Meanwhile, Mr. Trump's job-approval rating is 39%. That's low but essentially unchanged by the Comey episode.
     

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