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  1. BonesJones

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    You guys have made it so I would look at him with a 2nd round pick. Still wouldn't touch him with 26.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    What does a source have to do with thinking WABC's are a wasted pick?

    Name the last one worthy of a pick
     
  3. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Frank Kaminsky?

    Mason Plumlee?
     
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    Collins will be a PF in the NBA.
     
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    He'll be a great pick and roll finisher if he can hit a consistent jumper to keep the defense honest.
     
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    He seems like he could be Tristan Thompson-esque, which I think is pretty high praise, even if some do not.
     
  7. BonesJones

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    He's a PF.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    DeAndre Jordan and Tyson Chandler are/were excellent pick-and-roll finishers without possessing a jumper. Being good at pick-and-pop isn't a necessity to be a good roll man. Being able to pass to the right guy on the move, though, would be a really nice skill. If you can ping a pass to exploit people moving to try and cut you off when you roll to the hoop and receive a pass, that can be pretty devastating.
     
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    True, you can be successful if you have a hall of fame PG in CP3 and some veteran savvy in Tyson. It's just much easier if you have that jumper.
     
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    only if we bring back Mike Rice... now that would be entertaining :)
     
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    Bell would be alright for us due he can runthe baseline like Vonleh did with Nurk. Bell is more quicker jumper than Vonleh is around the hoop. Plus he is better rim proctor than he is on defense. With the great combine Bell had bleacher report move him around 23 on the chart. But I going to wait to see who the Blazers bring in for workouts. But my believe Olshey going to try to trade up to take Collins.
     
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    Collins is best classified as a 5 that can play 4 against traditional 2-big lineups. You lose a lot of the value he brings as a rim protector if you play him as a full-time PF.

    If we get him, ideally he becomes a guy you can start with Nurkic, but also play him as the small-ball 5 when Nurk sits.
     
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    BleacherReport is an awful source for mock drafts. They have Moritz Wagner going 23rd in their latest mock.
     
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    On record since he was at Duke saying Plums was an exception. Also not a high pick. Frank below average at thus point.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    This was Kaminsky's second year in the league and improved in just about every statistical category with only 5 more minutes of playing time. I expect him to take another jump in the coming seasons.

    Also if Plumlee is an exception to the rule then would you concede that it is possible for there to come another player who is the same?
     
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    good Q, but where we are drafting we have to realize unless we get lucky we may not get a real starter, or we could get lucky and find one. We need bigs and they all have some warts or are really raw and unknown quantities (Ike, Patton, Allen, Zach Collins, Bell, and a few others). ANZEJS PASECNIKS - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anzejs-Pasecniks-65023/ ©DraftExpress is a guy who might be ont of the better C's in this draft as well.
     
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    Sure. I just hope another team takes that chance
     
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    We sacrificed the opportunity to get a very good player so we could get swept
     
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    Dougnsalem not barf

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    Old news.....
     
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    Yet still prevalent
     
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