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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by MickZagger, May 15, 2017.

  1. Blazer4ever

    Blazer4ever Finding a Way BANNED

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    Ok, you're right.
    I'm sorry if I lashed out on BNM. I respect his opinions, it's just that these statistics aren't the whole truth even if they aren't meaningless.
    And since I stopped watching games I voice my opinions maybe more voiceferously but not as frequently.
    I wish I could watch as many games as I used to
     
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  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Perhaps the most humble mea culpa I've ever read on this board. Much respect.
     
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  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Should have
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He didn't "find" PER. It's a widely used and accepted stat.
     
  5. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Whatever, what about "scored 1 point in game 3?"

    WTF is that supposed to mean?
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What are these "points" you are referring to? Where did you find these "points" because you're clearly just trying use this made up stat to show that you're right.
     
  7. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    Wait... didn't we go 1-1 against them that year too? (During the season)
     
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  8. Blazer4ever

    Blazer4ever Finding a Way BANNED

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    Yes but he's a great defender, a great team defender, like Ezeli actually.
    This doesn't reflect in PER or PPG
     
  9. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Que es un idioma esta usar?

    I have no idea how close that is to what I was trying to say
     
  10. Sarni

    Sarni Well-Known Member

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    We went 1-3 I think. We play them more than twice.
     
  11. ehizzy3

    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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    What are you trying to say?
     
  12. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    She was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes
    And points all her own sitting way up high
    Way up firm and high

    Those points? :dunno:
     
  13. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I was trying to say what language Nate was using? Me confused by stats and words.
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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  15. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Dude he could feed a village for life with all the crow he would be eating.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Is he now? :lol:
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    PER is not some obscure stat that no one knows. It's well documented and tracked by several web sites. NBA players, coaches, agents and GMs know what it is. PER was invented by analytics guru John Hollinger which led directly to him being hired as Vice President of Basketball Operations by the Memphis Grizzlies.

    Both a high level overview and the exact formula used are readily available to anyone who cares to educate themselves about how it's calculated and what it means. It's limitations are also well known and I have readily acknowledged those limitations hundreds of times in this forum when using this stat.

    It's just one stat, and far from perfect. If it's used in context and the limitations understood, like any other stat, it can be useful as a basis for further discussion. It's not a be-all-end-all number. I've never claimed it is. I could list each and every stat individually that is used in the calculation of PER, but that would cause most people's eyes to glaze over. Enough of my posts already fall under the tldr category. So, when I use PER, it's just a shorthand way of stimulating further discussion.

    Don't blame me for your lack of education. If you actually wanted to understand what this stat means, how it's calculated and what its limitations are, you would have done so by now. Normally, if someone shows an interest in improving their knowledge and understanding, I'll provide a brief overview with links to in depth articles about the subject, but since you've made no effort, I'm not going to do your work for you. If you want to learn, make the effort. If not, stop criticizing what you don't understand.

    Ironic from someone who admits to not watching the games. I'm not just a stats guy. I love basketball and watch as many NBA games as possible. Yes, the eye test is part of the equation, but stats are also useful, when understood and used within context. The two go hand in hand. Watching the games helps me understand what the stats mean and where they are lacking. Understanding the stats further enhances my enjoyment of the games. It helps me watch for certain tendencies and trends. It encourages me to watch the game with more attention to small details, to see the game within the game. Perhaps not for everyone (I've never claimed it is), but it works for me.

    BNM
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Are you a good driver and how fast can you count a large quantity of spilled toothpicks without picking them up?
     
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  19. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    BNM
     
  20. Strenuus

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    Oh right. lul.
     

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