Politics SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTED!

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  1. MarAzul

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    I do. I also know, both you and I, took a oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
    The domestic part concerns me now.
     
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    Still waiting!
     
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    I don't know that I'm a Trump hater, more like a Trump disrespecter, but I'd be happy to answer this question in the future.

    The way this works is, we'll investigate Trump for a few years, air out all of his dirty laundry that we can find, investigate his family and business associates, air out their dirty laundry.

    In the course of that, we'll no doubt find three pieces of evidence. Maybe more than three. Might be completely unknown at this time. Might be things that haven't even happened yet. Or that happened 30 years ago.

    Think Ken Starr and Bill Clinton.

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    No, I cherry pick the stuff he says that's outrageous. He may say a number of different things but when you hear something egregious that contradicts the narrative he was putting out, you pay attention. With Bill Clinton I'm sure you can pick out a couple likes "that woman" "what is is" and that becomes important.

    If I told you I like all races, and I told you I think everyone is equal, then you find out I called dviss an "N", you wouldn't disregard it as cherry picking. You would think I were racist.

    The Trump whitehouse gave one explication for the Comey firing, told by many people who speak for the administration. Then the Pres in an interview deflTes that entire story, it makes me pay attention. Then we find out that Trump told the Russians in that firing Comey relieved pressure from the investigation, well. Once again that's pretty fucking telling.
     
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    I read Comey hid in some curtains to avoid Trump. Whatever
     
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    Does the president have the right? Yes.

    But it goes against a very long standing history and tradition because that separation guards against the slippery road towards dictatorship. For the Pres to fire the FBI head for investigating him about anything including colluding with martians is very damaging the our ability to believe that nobody, including the President, is above the law.
     
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    I agree, there's nothing important about that.
     
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    You answered right the first time then added "but I don't like it"

    Tough shit, Obama indirectly told illegals they should vote. I saw it and knew he didn't break the law, that was the end of it.

    Trump probably shook his hand and knew he would fire him because he has big hands. Guy is 6'8".
     
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    Ok
     
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    You hide from your boss at Taco Bell you'll likely get fired.
     
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    Impeachment doesn't need to be a convictable crime. High Crimes and Misdemeanors candy include a wide variety of issues that don't amount to a convictable offense.
     
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    Good stuff barf. It is not suppose to work that way.
     
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    His boss?
     
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    Trump didn't fire him legally huh? Are you testing some Riesling right now?

    Anyone on Earth who can fire anyone else is that person's boss. Barfo brings up the Clinton fiasco, is this going to be the new definition of is?
     
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    Too bad for your boy. I'd feel more sorry for him if he actually had any idea how it was supposed to work, I guess.

    barfo
     
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    Jury nullification happens when people clearly break the law and the jury says "fuck it"

    What you're saying is that you want people to vote to impeach him because he's an asshole or incompetent. Probably all true.
     
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    Yes
     
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    I think he may have also broken the law but no proof there. There does seem to be proof that Flynn and perhaps others broke the law and I'd like to see them prosecuted
     
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    Yes. I think one thing the Trump fans in this thread may have forgotten is that the special counsel isn't charged with investigating Trump specifically.

    There was actually a lot of carnage in Watergate besides Nixon:

    The final toll included:
    • one presidential resignation
    • one vice-presidential resignation – although Agnew’s crimes were unrelated to Watergate
    • 40 government officials indicted or jailed
    • H.R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (White House staff), resigned 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
    • John Dean (White House legal counsel), sacked 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
    • John Mitchell, Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), jailed
    • Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy (ex-White House staff), planned the Watergate break-in, both jailed
    • Charles Colson, special counsel to the President, jailed
    • James McCord (Security Director of CREEP), jailed

    Next few years should be awesome fun for the White House staff!

    barfo
     
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    And I highly doubt we will see such extensive wrongdoing but our election process was compromised and we need to understand if there was any collusion and to what extent. And now, we also need to make sure that US officials don't obfuscate the law regardless if it stems from the original purpose of the investigation or some ancillary cause.
     
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