Politics Michael Flynn to decline Senate Intel committee subpoena, invoke 5th Amendment later today

slang for small army? just a guess

 

Creates jobs though....I have one of those jobs

 

You may be correct.
However, the damage was done simple making it legal to not provide the healthcare, lawful to break the contract if you will. Many corporation took the opportunity to use that opening in the law.
That is why I refer to it as an offer they can't refuse.

In my case, there several hundred thousand people that were retired and a couple hundred K more that lost the retirement benefit they were still working to complete.
We had no legal recourse, just SOL.

There is no way to fix this now, the damage has be done.

 

I think this is probably correct.
However, it would be nice to let each individual define old or when it has been reached.
The get together at on Deschutes made the individual differences really apparent.

 

the reason I ask is my mother and father are on such plan/benefit package from the old Raytheon defense industries corporation and have worried about what might have happened to them. Raytheon however has continued to provide the package that they earned in their combined 74 years of employment with the company and had annually assured their retirees that they would be taken care of, even though the original company no longer exists. just lucky I guess

 

Luck would be my guess. But then, perhaps they didn't know what it all meant. Hard to believe the company has a benevolent administrator of the plan as well as the the power to be benevolent.

Three companies I can name as I sit here, IBM, UPS, Rockwell exploited the chance. Near one half the people where I live, out of 50 properties are in the same shape, screwed by Obama care,
retired from companies with names I can't pull up.

I believe the intent was to push all these people into the insurance markets to help pay for the masses of high risk people Obama wanted to sign up. I don't think the tax was even consider as a revenue source, more of a prod to move events. Most of these people were covered by plans funded by their ex employers, self insured, not buying insurance. Just guessing but somewhere around 10 to 15 million people. Shoot maybe more, my ex employer may involve nearly a million when you count wifes and some dependents.

The reason I keep banging this drum it to make people aware, it doesn't seem they know it happened to millions of people. This is major reason to follow the Constitution, where as if you want to make government responsible for a huge program like healthcare, by any logic, it should be started by an amendment to make the government responsible with the support of the Nation.
Then a proper design can be done and there will be no need for slight hand tactics, like secrecy in who is getting screwed to enable slipping it through Congress on a one party vote. No need for taxes that are nothing but a prod and or deflection. In short I think people should be forced to see the shit that Obama managed to make happen that screwed people and will fail in the end which is real near.

 

My party is a stretch. But in either case, follow the Constitution is the better process for either party. I keep writing about it. To you guys and Representatives.

So in this, we agree, need a better process.

 

Yeah Sherlock, I said it. But you know, I shouldn't have to guess, Obama never told the American people he was doing this shit, let alone to so many. You have no fucking idea how many do you?

 

it hasn't just been the ACA that stripped pensioners of their healthcare. one of the democratic talking points concerning budget "wins" in the last funding bill included
Medicaid coverage for miners whom had lost their coverage pensions when bankruptcy judges absolved their former employers of responsibility for continued contracted benefits to the union and former union workers and their families in order to make the coal mining companies assets more attractive to bidding. I believe it was a holding company named patriot(?) something that bought up several smaller coal companies and couple of years later filed for bankruptcy protection in st Louise Missouri. 12000 miners in that proceeding alone. municipalities and public employee unions around the country have had similar experiences in lost pensioner benefits.

the catastrophic loss of health care benefits that you and these other examples of folks loseing coverage, mostly as retirees without the financial ability to afford a similar benefit package to the ones they earned during their lifetime of service that they provided these companies, through no fault of their own, is a compelling case study for reasoning a single payer healthcare provider. certainly not even the stongest argument but a cautionary one for those that trust there pension to be there when they need it. and no safety net to pick up the slack in present government benefits.

 

Yes, adding million of more people to the talking point may well have been part of the plan.

 

You're special barf. The rarest of men.

 

Don't give a shit about which political party they come from, under whose Administration they served. You violate the law, you should suffer the consequences, whether you're Gen. Flynn, Richard Armitage, Hillary Clinton or Lois Lerner. I'm so f***ing tired of the idea of "too big to jail".

 

We agree on this. "Too big to jail" is a black mark on our democracy.

 

Apparently you worked for a shitty company marzy,

FAKE NEWS

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/14/text-michael-flynn-resignation-letter.html

 

So thank god for socialized single payer healthcare or you would have been in trouble after your former employer stabbed you in the back. kinda makes you think, maybe you shouldnt have worked for them all those years.