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Yeah way too high. If you are big with little starting potential, there's no reason to take that guy before the late 1st round.

 

That's odd. Normally they are pretty solid. Is there one you prefer?

 

Yep, I was going to write "Lillardesque" but thought that would be goin overboard. Markkanen might be over 7f but is marketed as a 4, this guy looks to be able to shoot it close to as good and seems to have all those others talents you mentioned. None of us has likely seen enough of either to make a really good guess, but based upon what I've seen I'd take Bolden without a second thought over Markanen

I picked up the following on the web from a piece on PF's:

"And a few NBA folks are intrigued by Bolden, saying he’s more productive and aggressive than he showed in college, and looks like a different player now -- someone that could go earlier than people who aren’t paying attention may think.

“That’s a kid I think people are kind of missing on,” a Western Conference executive said. “I’ve watched him intently. Serbian basketball has really taken a hit from a financial standpoint. They’re not playing in front of 20,000 people. But he’s accepted his environment. It can be a harsh place for minorities -- not from a racial type thing.

“It’s just a real different environment. It’s a big city, but it’s a slum city. People don’t smile much. Older people don’t smile because they don’t have anything. The young people think what they see on TV is what comes out of America. It puts a lot of pressure on a kid who’s different from what they think. They’re on a shoestring budget, and he’s produced.”

Said a Southwest Division executive: “he’s off the radar now and starting to gain interest … watched him live in game and practice in Belgrade -- he’s a slasher and runner -- plays inside and out and shoots the three with ease. He’s improved.”

 

actually drafting a 5 I think is something we may do as well as we have no depth at the position after Nurk, Davis is a UFA after next yr and Meyers is worthless and Vonleh is a PF. Bolden is a PF but might be able to play sone SF and small ball C, but I'd still like to add another C or PF/C and this draft where we pick is loaded with these kind of guys

 

We might have Patton and Allen available at 15 but there's a good chance neither will be there at 20. Anigbogu should be available with all our picks. Problem with picking Patton or Allen at 15 is that we'd likely have to give up on Collins, Jackson, Anonuby or another player who plays in a position we need help in more.

 

I guess I'd disagree that we really need an SF more than a PF and/or C. Hark is fine and solid, Aminu can play SF as well as can Turner. And I think a guy like Bolden could play some SF as well and Bell can easily guard SF's. I think a Bolden/Bell combo is intriguing as either one can guard PF and SFs and small ball C's as well - the flexibility that offers is attractive IMO

 

Watch Neil trade all three picks right before the draft just to kill our buzz.

 

would you guys be happy if we traded #15 and #20 for #10 and pick zach collins, then trade #26 for #36 and #39 to get jonah bolden and sindarius thornwell?

 

one of the places I got some of the Bolden info from was a Kings thread and they think Vlade (from that area) is likely already on Bolden and that the Kings might try to trade down with the 10, who knows but that would not surprise me and I have a feeling Bolden will not be available at 36 or 39 as he's going to move up. Its all a crap shoot/guessing game on guys like this

 

#26 and Leonard for Trevor Booker, #20 and Crabbe for John Henson and #15 plus Aminu for Thad Young. I guess some people would be proper excited given how many advocated that it'd be better to get experienced average players than rookies.

 

If ZCollins shows well in testing and looks like a real backup C or possible PF, then I would rather trade up (if we had to) to get him and then just take Bolden at 26. If he is really as good as he looks, as said above, he won't be there at 36. Bolden looks like a first rounder. If he is, then make him one. Thornwell is interesting, but not at the expense of losing someone better.

 

Yeah, I think Bolden and Collins could be a good draft, actually I am still a bit gun shy on trading up for Collins but as you say if he works out well.....

 

My current list of interest is:

ZCollins
Anigbogu
Bell
Bolden
Jeanne

I would be stoked to end up with 2-3 of those players.

 

I like that list....would throw in Diallo at the end as well.

 

a savvy move might be to:

trade 15 to nets for 22 and 27
trade 20 to jazz for 24 and 30
keep 26


22- bell
24- jeanne
26- fergie ferg
27- diallo
30- giles

keep ferg and jeanne overseas, and let diallo and giles fight for playing time in the G league. Maybe a year from now we have 4 exciting prospects and bell already contributing.

 

Almost without exception, teams regret trading down in a draft. I would rather stay put and take BPA or trade up. Trading down looks good on paper, but you almost always miss out on something by doing so. Top picks are hard to get.

 

I picked this up from another board and I'll post it because I think its telling as to how fluid this draft from 12-30 is going to be, and moreso as workouts get into gear

"Chad Ford has a new draft board with mostly the usual list of names but with newcomers
like Jeanne, Diallo and Frank Jackson. As far as the bigs go, he still has John Collins as his
next best big after Zach Collins follwed in a group of Allen, Anigbogu, Patton and Adebayo.

Interesting the combine testing downgrades Anigbogu who tested below average as an
athlete and Allen is being downgraded from his interviews. It's clear those pre-draft
workouts will be critical as far as determining the pecking order amongst the bigs."

 

This whole concept of trading down makes absolutely zero sense to me at all. Why in the hell would we trade out of the 1st round for the purpose of targetting a 2nd rounder when 2nd round picks are pretty easy to buy or trade a future 2nd for? It's like giving up a better asset because for some reason we over value a lesser asset.