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In the early 70s in my hometown in Iowa a factory hired a large segment of the locals to make trailers for big rigs to haul....one year before they had to start paying out retirement to long time workers....they closed and opened in another town 20 miles away under a new name....hiring all rookies ..probably what some businessmen would call a genius move....I thought it sucked...

 

Exactly, he resigned, like I thought.

 

its the american dream. i mean "its obamas fault".

 

Yes, he resigned, as evidenced by his resignation letter. Obviously.

 

I would not characterize the action as a fault. I see it more as Obama got the result he wanted.
I find it objectionable that he wanted to do this to millions of people. It is even more objectionable the Democrats made it happen. When I confronted my Democrat representative about this issue,
he said, It was Constitutional.

 

>>>This is an odd way to view the healthcare you provide to people hired for extremely dangerous work.

No, this is not what I thought. I thought it was unjust as hell for a government(Democrat) to make it legal for corporations break their agreements with employees so that they have no recourse.
Then compound the egregious interference with a threat of a tax unless they follow the governments lead. Thus my thought, an offer they can't refuse.

 

You are showing conceptual thinking qualities on a scale similar to barf and stumps.

 

What action did the government take to make this egregious act happen?

 

I don't blame the govt....just corporate greed...which is what actually you might want to consider blaming in your case...just a thought. A guy like Warren Buffett doesn't let these things happen to his long time employees...in my stories case...workers had no recourse...non union..wasn't a govt contract...just a company shafting it's workforce and profiting from the loss of others...

 

Section 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That from and after the first day of September next, the master or owner of every ship or vessel of the United States, arriving from a foreign port into any port of the United States, shall, before such ship or vessel shall be admitted to an entry, render to the collector a true account of the number of seamen, that shall have been employed on board such vessel since she was last entered at any port in the United States,–and shall pay to the said collector, at the rate of twenty cents per month for every seaman so employed; which sum he is hereby authorized to retain out of the wages of such seamen.

Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That from and after the first day of September next, no collector shall grant to any ship or vessel whose enrolment or license for carrying on the coasting trade has expired, a new enrolment or license before the master of such ship or vessel shaH first render a true account to the collector, of the number of seamen, and the time they have severally been employed on board such ship or vessel, during the continuance of the license which has so expired, and pay to such collector twenty cents per month for every month such seamen have been severally employed, as aforesaid; which sum the said master is hereby authorized to retain out of the wages of such seamen. And if any such master shall render a false account of the number of men, and the length of time they have severally been employed, as is herein required, he shall forfeit and pay one hundred dollars.

Sec. 3. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the several collectors to make a quarterly return of the sums collected by them, respectively, by virtue of this act, to the Secretary of the Treasury; and the President of the United States is hereby authorized, out of the same, to provide for the temporary relief and maintenance of sick or disabJed seamen, in the hospitals or other proper institutions now established in the several ports of the United States, or, in ports where no such institutions exist, then in such other manner as he shall direct: Provided, that the monies collected in anyone district, shall be expended within the same.

the congress that enacted this act in 1798 included 5 framers of the constitution and was signed by president john adams. I believe this might provide sufficient precedent for tax based, government provided healthcare mandate. it includes a payroll tax and an employer tax.

 

No! The main reason for me bringing this up several times, It is what you should expect, when leader like Obama do not honor the Constitution, taking on business for the Federal government that is not in the Constitution as it's business. Without Constitutional authority and the backing of all the people, you should expect, slight of hand shit. people getting screwed on single party votes. There is a right way to do business and right way to run a government. Obama fuck it up badly, people were hurt and it helps no one in the end. It failed.

 

Not at all. We sure did not need to government to impose the tax and and thereby the threat to increase the cost of our healthcare, discriminating against us as a groupl
But it was made it impossible for us to defend ourselves when the government made dropping the healthcare a legal action. Before that, as a large group, we had the mean to combat such action in court. Obama, gave them a very large gift.

 

im sorry if this is too confusing for you. He resigned. I can post his letter of resignation again for you to study if it is still not taking root.

 

no. your company screwed you. "an offer they can't refuse"? well, some companies refused it. they chose not to screw their former employees. yours chose to happily accept the opportunity.

Thems the breaks. maybe next time, choose a better employer.

 

Ha! I see the stump is still here.

I am really pleased to have chosen a better President. But I take it, you are not. Thems the breaks.

 

you could just cut an paste this on most OT threads Marz.....it really covers everything you've been trying to say.

 

I think you are right. Better President, one that follows Constitution, no complaint.