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ReaLLY???
We better not....

 

and a knock on NO....

How can we be the team with one of the lowest payrolls and then a year later looking ot offer a 1st to dump salary?

Im just like... WOW.. HOW THE HELL?

 

We gotta dump at least one of those contracts. I'm fine if we have to include a draft pick to accomplish that. I dont want three rookies on the roster next year.

 

Paul Allen is quite persuasive??

 

This is somewhat true, but I would argue that the difference is much closer for a team needing to rebuild with a bunch of young talent, compared to another team that just needs one more piece. The first team can use more shots and has time to wait for someone to develop and will plan on getting more high lottery picks throughout the rebuild. The second team needs a single player at a higher level that can contribute.

If I were rebuilding from scratch right now, the Portland picks would be enticing as I would use all three of them on center and PF projects (who take longer to develop), guaranteeing I would be in the lottery for the next few years. Once I'm done in the lottery, then at least one of my bigs should have developed by that point. That entire proposition would not be helpful to a team looking to add one more piece.

 

Allen Crabbe and pick #26 for Kyle O'Quinn

 

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NO giving up talent for his own clusterfuck. Ya, this team is headed nowhere for several seasons.

 

I'd rather you shot me in the head.

 

I guess you and I place a different value to getting $18 mil off our cap next year (alone).

 

I have a hard time thinking Paul Allen is going to be okay with moving assets just to save money in the luxury tax. He wants to win not save pennies.

 

Yeah. It's not my money and our team is better with crabbe on it and I for sure wouldn't exchange him for KOQ. A guy like Crabbe should never be a salary dump. Save that for the Leonards.

 

How it actually benefits us to dump this contract in the short term? What does it accomplish?

It would make sense if we were able to then go after free agents. We won't. We will not get any high salary free agent for the next 3 years.

 

Add Leonard.

Take back Courtney lee if we have to.

 

I hope this is an errant rumor. I would much rather see us try and play Crabbe and Biebs a bit in the first half of the season when they might be able to show some value. But for the playoffs, Crabbe started to look pretty decent. And Biebs was injured most of the year.

If we dump them while they are rock bottom and throw in draft picks aren't we becoming Orlando?

 

I do not believe dumping salary now is about signing new free agents later. It is about who we want to keep on the roster long term.

If the plan is to re-sign Nurkic and Vonley to new contracts next off-season, then starting to make room for those large contracts now makes sense. Keep in mind, both Nurkic and Vonley will be RFA, so NO might need to match some very large offers.

Also, PA has said going into the LT in the past did not work out well for them. He said he might do it short term with this roster, but gave the impression he would not be happy about paying large amounts of LT long term. Not sure where some of the posters in this thread get the impression he will. That is not what he has said in an interview. And PA has been very accurate with the info he gives out.

 

Give it time and wait and see if you cannot get rid of them without attaching significant assets. I swear some people would offer three picks plus CJ to just have Leonard's $10M off the books.

By acquiring rookies now we ensure that we have a chance at having rotation players at low salaries in 1-3 years. We should be looking for buyers for Turner and Crabbe but we should first ensure that nobody is going to take them without our pick attached. Actually with Crabbe's skillset I'd say we should be able to even get something in return from a team that needs a shooter.

Getting rid of Meyers $10M actually solves nothing. We may as well let Aminu and Davis go and have extra $14M of space. It'd also be much easier and should probably allow us to get some second rounders back, even.

 

I totally get what you are saying, however, maybe this rumor tells us something new.

Just maybe NO’s plan is to take only two players out of the first round, not three. And just maybe consolidating pics to move up does not appear to be a workable option, or too costly of an option. So the third first round pick does not have much value to him, but it maybe worth something to a team that needs a pic.

 

It would have to be a team who wants the player regardless. Who takes a huge contract, loses their cap space, just for the 26th pick? We are not talking a 1 year
deal. it just has never made sense to me why people think one pick could sway a team. And Neil is not giving up all 3. I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

 

No to dumping salaries with picks unless it's to create cap space. Don't trade a bad contract unless you'll be able to acquire a player to upgrade that position.