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    The game and Amare will be too quick for both of them. Amare will have his way with either one that's on the floor and while they will be able to stay down low they will need to focus on Amare, who has a great mid range shot too, and I don't see them doing much. They try and go block anyone's shot, especially Nash as he's driiving and Amare gets an easy dunk.You forget what he did to Damp 2 years ago?
     
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    Having Amare here means not having to rely on 3-point shooting and having an interior scorer like him will make it easier for Raja Bell, Steve Nash, Barbosa, Jones and Marion to shoot. It wasn't hard to defend the Suns last year because their only way to score was the 3 really...
     
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    Well I thought what got Dampier in the most problems was foul trouble. Having Diop and George though will allow Dallas more fouls to give. Diop I think is a better matchup to the faster players while Dampier is a better matchup against the big guys like Shaq. We'll see what happens but Dampier did pretty good earlier this year against Amare. Anyways you guys got to go through San Antonio first.
     
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    I thought Damp did a solid job too, but look at Amare's statline from that game: 8-16, 25 points, 13 rebounds and 2 blocks and he's just getting better and better. That was 2-3 months ago, right now he's putting up some incredible numbers.And you guys gotta go through some tough West teams also. I'm really not worried about any team besides the Mavs this season. Manu, Parker and Duncan are good, but the Suns are way better than 2 years ago and I think the Spurs are just too old to keep up for a full series. They aren't really that great anymore besides their big 3.
     
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    We'll see what happens. San Antonio is not as good as years past but they did beat you guys in 5 games 2 years ago. I don't think the suns match up well to spurs. Even the old spurs. Amare can't hold his own against Duncan and Ginobili always seems to go off against you guys.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 4 2007, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We'll see what happens. San Antonio is not as good as years past but they did beat you guys in 5 games 2 years ago. I don't think the suns match up well to spurs. Even the old spurs. Amare can't hold his own against Duncan and Ginobili always seems to go off against you guys.</div>Amare can't hold his own against Duncan? He had the best series of games in his life against San Antonio 2 years ago and had one of his best games this year against Duncan. Our defense is much better than before, I don't even see the Spurs taking us to 7. They are the ones that don't match up to us.
     
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    Duncan won't be guarding Amare most of the time but Amare will have to guard Duncan unless Kurt Thomas is inserted into the lineup which will slow down the suns much like Stephen Hunter did 2 years ago.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Mar 3 2007, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You still have to keep saying stupid things like this, making people think you are just a major hater.You may be right, they still need to play like they have recently, to prove they can win the whole thing...But EVERYONE knows they are the "hands down" favorite...why do you have to keep being so difficult?You can say you don't think they'll win the title, but they are the favorites, and I don't know how even you can go against that.</div>What happenned to the 60 win Mavs that went to the Finals last year and were up 2-0 on a team that was struggling outside of the star player? Yeah, they went 0-4 in the next 4 games. They got pushed to 6 games by a Phoenix team without 3 of their best players (Amare, KT, and healthy Raja). The Spurs series could have gone either way, and while Mavs did get the win, it is not a decisive victory by any means. So yes, to me they still have to prove things in the playoffs. This whole season they have beaten teams by doing JUST enough to get by. That is fine in the regular season, but in the playoffs they will have to face REALLY tough teams in Phoenix, SA, Houston, Utah, Denver if they can get their act together in time, etc... So no, having possibly 70 wins means nothing to me until I see what they can do in 7 games against the best of the west in the playoffs.Rok-Do I like the Mavs? Of course not. They knocked out the Rockets 2 years ago, and I have never really been a fan. There are many teams I do not like, players I do not like, etc... For the record, there is not one players on the Mavs that I dislike. I love to watch Dirk, Terry is fun tow atch, Howard has becoming a pretty exciting player, etc... But I truly, honestly feel they are not hands down favorites in these playoffs. The same problems they had in the Finals are still there, despite possibly winning 70 games. Can they contain all star swingman from going beserk on them? Against Phoenix, can they keep Amare from going 25/13 (even this season they haven't been able to do anything about him)? Against the Spurs, can they do anything about Duncan this time? Against the Rockets, can they contain either Yao or T-Mac from going off? All of these questions, to me, are unanswered until playoff time starts and they can prove it. They aren't the only team with many questions that can only be answered in the post season. Same goes for Phoenix, same goes for Houston, etc... Sure, you can say Mavs have Dirk and all of that, but as you saw in the Finals, he may have off shooting nights or may be defended really well, and outplayed by other superstars. In that case, the games can go either way. Therefor no, I don't think they will just do away with any team they face like everyone seems to think. Do I think they are the favorites to win the title? Yes, of course I do. Do I personally think they will win it? I don't know about that. If Phoenix is fully healthy, I think it can go either way in a really tough 7 game series. I think both SA and Houston can push them to at least 6 or 7 games. That is not being a hater, but I truly believe that the Mavs won't just take everyone out in 5 games and dominate the playoffs, especially in the West where they have 4-5 other really tough teams to beat.PS- I couldn't give a sh*t if people view me as a hater, homer, or whatever. If that means I never get on any more all-BBW teams, most underrated poster awards, or most knowledgable awards...so be it. Being a fan of a player/teams and disliking other players/teams is the nature of the game. I am not an analyst that gets paid to be impartial and such, I am a fan like anyone else. I try, to the best of my ability, to be as fair as possible. When someone is better than someone like T-Mac or Dwyane Wade, I acknowledge it. When a player like Dirk is the better player, I acknowledge it. If you feel I do not do a good job at that, then click the ignore user button or stop reading my posts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 4 2007, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Duncan won't be guarding Amare most of the time but Amare will have to guard Duncan unless Kurt Thomas is inserted into the lineup which will slow down the suns much like Stephen Hunter did 2 years ago.</div>Amare's defense is much better than before. He did a good job against Duncan in the last game and will do a good job again. Duncan will still score 20 something, but he won't dominate. Kurt Thomas is also good and he has NEVER slowed us down before. We still score just as much with him. The fast break is started by a rebounder and that would be him, his mid-range is also very good so he has some offensive skills. People keep saying he will slow us down, but he has never done that before.And if Duncan doesn't guard Amare, Amare may go off for 40 points for the whole series against guys like Oberto and Elson. Duncan will guard Amare and that's fine with me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Do I like the Mavs? Of course not.</div>That was my point. You could have just said that, but you went on a essay binge like you always do. I mean your essay consisted of your own conceived thoughts really. You just ranted for no reason. Did I anywhere say Mavs were so much better than the other contenders and they would dominate the playoffs. No. Bottom line, you admit you have something against the Mavs and your quips about them apply to the others as you stated. But you only downplay the Mavs when you get the chance, that's bias. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If you feel I do not do a good job at that, then click the ignore user button or stop reading my posts.</div>I don't ignore posters.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 4 2007, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was my point. You could have just said that, but you went on a essay binge like you always do. I mean your essay consisted of your own conceived thoughts really. You just ranted for no reason. Did I anywhere say Mavs were so much better than the other contenders and they would dominate the playoffs. No. Bottom line, you admit you have something against the Mavs and your quips about them apply to the others as you stated. But you only downplay the Mavs when you get the chance, that's bias.</div>I don't let it effect my views of the Mavs. They have holes in their team just like every other team in the league. I said they are the favorites to win it, and they deserve it after this amazing season. But am I a hater because I have doubts, just like I do with every other team? I said in other topics that they are having the best season in the league, even better than Phoenix. As I said, I try to be as fair as possible. But are the Mavs perfect, and do I think that theya re unbeatable? No.I gave them praise. They are having an INCREDIBLE season. But to say they are automatically gonna win a ring or hands down favorite against anyone they play in the playoffs, I just think that's wrong and untrue.People brought up the playoffs before I did, and I chimed in.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But am I a hater because I have doubts, just like I do with every other team?</div>No your a hater because you dislike them. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But are the Mavs perfect, and do I think that theya re unbeatable? No.</div>Great point, I mean considering we live in a perfect world. Right? That statement deserves a "No sh*t."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 4 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No your a hater because you dislike them.</div>That's ridiculous. Just because you dislike someone or something doesn't make you a hater. Being a hater is when you don't watch the games, make things up, discredit facts and others opinions, and then proceed to blast a player or team with ridiculous and untrue statements for apparently no reason. Hating is far stronger and pronounced than just disliking. I do not hate on the Mavs. I give them a ton of praise for what they have done in the season, but until they prove things in the post season I can't say they are head and shoulders above everyone else. This is my first post in this topic, please tell me how this is hating:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for the playoffs,in my eyes they still have to prove things to me to be the hands down favorite. And with Amare back and very much healthy in Phoenix, it will be a very tough road.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Great point, I mean considering we live in a perfect world. Right? That statement deserves a "No sh*t."</div>You'd be suprised how many people I have seen called idiots when they disagree that the Mavs won't win the title or think they are weak in some way, shape or form.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 4 2007, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just saying though, you say the Suns should've had more depth and that would have helped them, but they lost 3 key players along the way, had a very tough road full of physical tight games and had to play a better team, the Mavs, than the Mavs played in the Finals. They were in a much worse position in which depth wouldn't help. It wouldn't help the Mavs either I don't think, but that's all over now and I can't go back and see how you guys would do without 3 of your better players.</div>I don't know exactly what your saying so I will answer it to my best.Our depth last year didnt help because we didn't utilize.
     
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    Let me break it down Nitro.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Do I like the Mavs? Of course not.</div>That signifies hate. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You'd be suprised how many people I have seen called idiots when they disagree that the Mavs won't win the title or think they are weak in some way, shape or form.</div>And who on this board are they?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 4 2007, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That signifies hate.</div>Just because I dislike them doesn't mean I hate them. I dislike my science teacher, does that mean I hate him? Of course not. Hate is a far stronger feeling than just dislike. There are very few things I hate in this world, and even fewer in the NBA. Mavs ar enot one of them. For the most part they are a fun team to watch, I like their star player in Dirk a lot, and I just don't hate them. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And who on this board are they?</div>Take a look at my first post. Nothing I said can be considered hate. I never said they would or wouldn't do anything, but I did say that they still have to prove things in the post season, and with Amare back for the Suns it will be a tough road. Then look at marvinmartian's response. Take a look at most of mavsfans posts about Dirk and the Mavs. Then there are many, not on this board but in general, who do nothing but look at standings and Sportscenter to form their opinions.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Then look at marvinmartian's response. Take a look at most of mavsfans posts about Dirk and the Mavs.</div>I looked at both posters responses in this thread and neither of them are saying Mavs are perfect. The only one is Saint Baller, but he's a homer. And if they are not on this board, why should I care. I don't hear their opinion, I'm looking at posters on here. And I don't see many calling the Mavs perfect without flaws.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Hate is a far stronger feeling than just dislike</div>I hate when people say this. They both mean the same thing. I don't give a sh*t if one supposedly has a stronger meaning behind it. If you dislike something, you don't like it. Period. If I go up to you and say I dislike you. Your going to register that and be like well, least he didn't say hate, so he has some good fortune towards me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 4 2007, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I looked at both posters responses in this thread and neither of them are saying Mavs are perfect. The only one is Saint Baller, but he's a homer. And if they are not on this board, why should I care. I don't hear their opinion, I'm looking at posters on here. And I don't see many calling the Mavs perfect without flaws.</div>Listen, I'm done arguing about this. Do I like the Mavs? No. Do I hate them? Definately not. Whether you believe I'm a hater or not based on your own criterea, I don't care. There is nothing I feel that I have to prove to you, and if you don't like what I say, then ignore my posts.
     
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    First I think you meant to quote my 2nd paragraph. It just doesn't run well.Second, <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Do I like the Mavs? No. Do I hate them? Definately not</div>What a horrible contradiction. :HAHAHA: I love BBW.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 4 2007, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First I think you meant to quote my 2nd paragraph. It just doesn't run well.Second, What a horrible contradiction. :HAHAHA: I love BBW.</div>You edited your post with the 2nd paragraph, it was not there when I first replied.As I said before, if I'm a hater based on your own criterea of that subject, be my guest. I post here to express my opinions and have fun discussion, not to please you or anyone else. I doubt most people will agree with you on the matter that hate/dislike are the same exact thing, but that is irrelevent.
     

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