What? what "shooters" do we have? theres literally 2 rotation players that are shooters and MAYBE you can put harkless in there too. Sorry, this is an uneducated comment.
I agree that Turner brings a LOT more to the table, but every advanced metric favors Crabbe (WS/48, BPM, VORP, Ortg) except for Drtg. Some by a large margin. Bottom line is BOTH are hot garbage and need to be moved.
I think somebody in one of the other threads had an idea. I mean, what if Olshey got a no on his attempts to trade for George or Butler, or just decided it was too risky to trade for George. I have always thought Evan Turner was a Phil Jackson kind of player and somebody posted that above (although the link didn't match). So what about trading Turner, Harkless and Leonard (he also seems to be kind of a Phil Jackson player, although a poor-performing one) and the 15 for Anthony, O'Quinn and the #8? Call me crazy but I can see New York doing that. They do not like to rebuild, this would be going younger but still being experienced. They would be receiving two good young veterans in exchange for a player they consider now a liability and for a backup center who isn't really needed. Now, would Portland do it? If they think somebody will be available at #8 that they really love and who will help within two years, then I guess yes. They would save $6 million the first year and by acquiring two guys with one less year on their deals than the guys going out. How would Anthony do here? Does Olshey think Stotts is such a wizard that he could integrate him successfully?
good points....actually I think Melo is the perfect fit for Stotts system....he's Stott's Dirk basically...if you can get him to play team ball and be the player he is for team USA we'd be in the finals in the west all through Dame's prime.
Dame, CJ, Melo, Vonleh and Nurk.....actually a hell of a core with Aminu coming off the bench ....I think Phil Jackson would see Turner as a Scottie Pippen swiss army knife guy who doesn't need to shoot 3's..who do you double team against that group?
I've gotta hear how Meyers Leonard is a "Phil Jackson" kind of player. When I think of "Phil Jackson kind of players," I think of either Hall of Famers or else role-players who are smart, play defense and can pass well. Or, wait--I guess his time in New York also creates two new types: awful players and white big men who shoot three-pointers (Porzingis is basically this category by himself). I suppose Leonard could quality under both.
Melo teams just don't win. Maybe that team would.?? The 8th pick could net you Z Collins or possibly but doubtful Isaac. That would still leave a couple of picks to use to fill in or trade. . Melo just isn't high on my list. He might be looking to prove some people wrong though.
Phil won with Luke Longley, Will Perdue and Bill Wennington...centers aren't really his thing unless Shaq is the objective there...Meyers like Mo Harkless would do whatever Phil wanted while his two scorers ball hogged away
Watch Melo. He holds the ball. It would be a disaster in our offense. Actually a disaster in today's NBA. Plus he would make Dame and CJ look like all defense performers
I guess in the sense that those guys weren't really considered "bangers" or guys who posted up a lot. Phil might have a big enough ego to think he could whisper in Myers' ear and make him into something.
Portland currently owns the Nos. 15, 20 and 26 picks in the June 22 draft and has spoken to every team in the league, “including the Knicks,” one league source said. The Knicks own the No. 8 pick as well as two second-rounders. The Blazers are interested in moving up in what is considered a very strong draft, especially at the top, while the Knicks have interest in acquiring additional picks to boost their rebuild, sources said. The two sides promised to “revisit” discussions as they move closer to the draft. The discussions were first reported by The Sporting News and also confirmed by ESPN, although one source said The Sporting News report that Portland was interested in conveying a pick to dump a contract was “erroneous.” The Sporting News reported Portland has “a projected salary of $133 million, which is $12 million over the league’s luxury-tax threshold. That puts the Blazers in line for $21 million in luxury tax payments.” Yet the Blazers are not considering giving up a pick to incentivize moving a player’s salary and haven’t had those discussions with other teams, sources said. Portland has built through the draft in the past and is “more than willing to add three more young players,” one source said.
