Politics Democrats vent but can't stop Trump from leaving Paris climate agreement

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  1. lawai'a

    lawai'a Well-Known Member

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    0ur complete system utilizes only two of the teslas
     
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    too big and heavy for the boat. they hang on one of the walls of my garage and take up the equivalent space of 4 upright frezers
     
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    Yes big differnce where you are. Hell, you guys ought to be Genning power off thermal energy, no worry about fuel or sun light. Just replace the big Diesel generators plants with geo steam generation.
     
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    It might be worth mentioning that you aren't including the value it adds on resale in your ROI. Idk.
     
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    Yeah, I would need to start from scratch, redesign to use the batteries as ballast in the keel and that sound like a mess right off. The lead/acid bank is in the boat low, about 1200 pounds so
    it is ballast. No I don't think they will do, would end up with some sort of compromise for no good reason.
     
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    for you...from your figures, I'd guess not...for me...very affordable and well worth it...I'm not heating a swimming pool or running an auto body shop though...your electric needs are probably way more than mine....I don't need an air conditioner for one.
     
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    awareness is going a long way towards making things happen with or without the Senate...recycling....prime example..until it became something talked about nobody cared....littering....until it hit the pocketbook, nobody cared. I think there's a lot of exciting developments in agriculture and land management..verticle farming has amazing potential
     
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    aquaponics. solar running pumps
     
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    One of you Twitter heads tweet a question to Neil deGrasse Tyson and ask him his plan.
     
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    The realtors I know say it doesn't add anything to the resale, or it's negligible. They say that unless it's entirely paid off, it really messes up many transactions.
     
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    The sky is falling.
     
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    If I wanted to sell my place I'd forget about investing in solar power for that property.....realators I know would say build another bathroom and the price goes up. Especially in an urban area
     
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    As with any fixture attached to a home that is being financed. It's their job to figure it out, if they are talking you out of something because it might make their job a bit harder you might wanna find a new agent.
     
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    A view of rising seas from the MarAzul
    I use the follow current charts which I have modified to navigation charts so I may reference my boat's position relative to the currents and the projected course relative to the currents at any given time.

    These ocean current are generated partially from the earth turning daily on it's axis, the effects of which are known as the Coriolis effect. The other major power source of this world wide current flow is the introduction of the cold water into the oceans from Rivers and streams, often very cold water from glacier melt. This cold water displaces the warmer sea water adding to the flow to the ocean currents, especially the Kuro Siwo current in the North Pacific and the Gulf Stream in the North Atlantic.

    How long these currents will continue to be powered is no-doubt a function of how long with the Glaciers feed the cold water into the ocieans. Since we know, Glaciers are predicted to be gone, especial those that exist between the 30 latitudes North and South, before the end of this Century. Perhaps closer to 40 - 50 years. Farming in these areas, once watered by glacier melt will really become a challenge. But without the water injection into the Sea, the sea level rise reaches it's maximum, and these major Ocean current probably cease to flow as we know them to through out human history.

    Without these current, you can suspect the land warmed by the currents, Canada, Northern United States, and Northern Europe become one hell of a lot colder. Probably triggering a new Ice age in the Northern Hemisphere. At that point the sea levels begin to slowly recede for several thousand years until it drops some 190 feet from todays level as the water is transfered once again to a Glacier Ice Pack.

    I do hope our grand children can learn to deal with the events. I seriously doubt they will find one among them that can devise a plan to stop the cycle. No doubt something will, but I wouldn't bet on it being man made. I expect the first thing that we will be forced to deal with beyond a little flooding in Miami and New York, is lack of water for farming in the most populated areas on earth. It should be anticipated now! But it isn't!

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    You see that chart barfo linked a while back that showed Boston under 100 or 1000 feet of ice?
     
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    At least Mt. Tabor is still around so we can fight each other.
     
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    I live pretty high up on the south end of the valley. You can get MarAzul to float any wuss that wants a beating up to see me. Vegas is already around 2000 feet above sea level so you Portland fools will probably be dead before the water gets to me............

    HEY, just realized another benefit of voting for Trump bitches!!!!!
     
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    I think you can bet on it. Don't bet against it. But it will take more time than we all have stacked together.
    I hear the sea is rising at 2 MM a year, if the Glaciers are indeed gone in the next 50 years, then I don't think Portlanders will ever see the difference.
    However, Some Mountains raising hell and plugging up the Columbia River might make your picture the new reality.
     

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