The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  1. BonesJones

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    I know I was just offering my thoughts on him. I don't know why I quoted you instead of Riverman haha.
     
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    Paul's money has to abide by cap rules.
     
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    Where is the traditional @TBpup thread when I need one?
     
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    OK, I called Neil and told him to call this off. Melo is too old and too expensive to give up our picks for.
    He agreed.
     
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    We have more than enough overpaid players to unload on them. Leonard, Turner, Aminu or Davis instead of one of them and Melo enters his final year of the contract, would be a good deal even just for this reason
     
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    What do you know? You picked Bowie over Jordan :D
     
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    Is Melo better than Mo as our starting SF? From that standpoint, this kind of deal is an upgrade. You'd have to talk to him and see where his head is at. If he thinks he'd be the man here and this would become his team, no thanks. If he acknowledges it's Dame's team and that he'd be here to support the Dame/CJ/Nurk core, then I see no problem.
     
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    I think Melo would be a great addition for this team... Dame-CJ-Any SF-Melo-Nurkic would be a legit contender, tho probably still not good enough to beat Warriors.... but there is no way it makes sense to give up a draft pick for him when you factor in his age and his ability to leave after one year. This is way too good of a draft. I think a Crabbe + Harkless package is fair for both sides.
     
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    Not when you take into account the game is played at two ends and we have a starting backcourt that is averse to tiring themselves with defense.

    If Dame and CJ where decent defenders AND we were challenging next year them maybe. We are not on either count.
     
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    The only thing we know for sure is the team as constituted isn't a contender. To contend, you have to get better at as many positions as possible, no?
     
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    Responding to the OP:

    Fucking garbage! The ONLY way I could conceivably on-board with trading for Melo is if we're trading Turner or Crabbe AND Meyers for him. If we're not dumping at least one of Turner/Crabbe, while taking back salary, then any trade is a non-starter. Turner/Crabbe have to go before we take back anyone that's not on a rookie contract.

    Now about Melo. I am somewhat intrigued with him at PF. Offensively he'd obviously be a huge improvement over Vonleh. But Vonleh is our best defender at PF, and 2nd best defender overall. I think Vonleh's defense is probably more valuable than adding another scoring option when we have Dame/CJ/Nurk who should be getting the lion's share of the shots. Also, let's not forget that Nurkic was finding Harkless on all his cuts to the basket, and opening up wide-open 10' jumpers for Vonleh. I think that what we already have is better than what we would have after the trade - and we'd keep our draft pick!
     
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    It has to be Turner or Crabbe with Leonard, to make the salaries match per CBA. Or some combination (two) of Aminu/Davis/Harkless with Leonard.
     
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    SF FG.jpg
     
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    As shown in OP, Davis, ezeli, Leonard works.
     
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    I can't believe people are upset about swapping Leonard Ezeli and a draft pick for Melo and OQuinn..
     
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    Right. I wrote earlier that I don't see us using Ezeli because we want the cap relief.

     
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    The math matters.

    Melo + O'Quinn make ~$30.3M.

    Leonard + Ezili's salaries add up to ~$17.7M. So we'd need to add another ~$13M to make the salaries match. So it's not just Ezeli and a draft pick...
     
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    Harkless would work cap-wise and would make some sense since the Blazers have a lot of guys who can play SF. He's from New York so it could be a good move for him.
     
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    I wouldn't want to see us give up both Mo and Aminu, but I don't disagree with your suggestion.

    That said, Mo + Ezeli + Leonard adds up to $10M + $7.7M + ~$10M. We'd be taking on ~$7M (not using Ezeli's option) and another ~$3M (if this is allowed), putting us at ~$140M, or even further over the LT. Or if we renounce Connaughton and Quarterman, we're at ~$137M. I'd have to look to be sure we can take back that 10% over the amount we're sending out (the ~$3M mentioned), considering our cap situation at the start of the summer.

    I'm not opposed to paying the LT, and likely PA isn't either. It has to be done strategically, and I'm not convinced paying it after this deal is a good idea.
     
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    Interesting topic and lots of good posts in this thread that have swayed me. I do feel sorry for the x-Blazer front office exec. who is now out of a job for sharing inside trade information to a trainer with loose lips. People think Trump hates leaks? Wait until someone shares this thread with PA or Neil.
     
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