Politics Trump vs Mueller

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Robert Mueller expands special counsel office, hires 13 lawyers

    Special counsel Robert Mueller has brought 13 lawyers on board to handle the Russia investigation, with plans to hire more, according to his spokesman Peter Carr.

    Mueller has assembled a high-powered team of top investigators and leading experts, including seasoned attorneys who've represented major American companies in court and who have worked on cases ranging from Watergate to the Enron fraud scandal.
    Among them are James Quarles and Jeannie Rhee, both of whom Mueller brought over from his old firm, WilmerHale. He's also hired Andrew Weissmann, who led the Enron investigation.


    "That is a great, great team of complete professionals, so let's let him do his job," former independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who investigated President Bill Clinton in the 1990s, told ABC News.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html
     
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    I'm not sure if Trump knows how special counsel works. I expect his tweet storm will totally help though. He did just get 60% disapproval. So nowhere to go but up?
     
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    I do not buy into the narrative about Mueller. He's fine, let him do his job.

    Or republicans are taking a play out of the Clinton/Ken Starr playbook. They didn't like the investigation, and look what they did to the special prosecutor.

    Trump really needs to shut up and focus on doing his job at this point.
     
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    I agree. This is not the first time a president has been investigated. Let the investigation do its job. Tweeting about it is not helping. Instead it makes you look like an obstructionist.
     
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    Let Nero play his fiddle.
     
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    It's a big nothingburger (as Crooked Hillary and her apologists would say).

    But he could really fuck up if he does obstruct the process, lie under oath, etc. He should listen to his lawyers and let the thing play out. He's got nothing to lose by letting it play out. He's got everything to gain by focusing on doing what he was duly elected to do.

    The media has nothing substantial to report on otherwise, and he could drive them to report on how the economy has turned, the deficit looking like it's been cut in half already, his infrastructure plans, tax reform, and so on.
     
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    That's unfair. He DOES play a lot of golf.
     
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    His attorney is fine.

    What a reach.
     
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    Trump has created tons of new jobs. And manufacturing is coming back, in spite of all the negative nattering nabobs of idiocy.
     
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    the NNI is watching you
     
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    Heck, he created a job for a wedding planner just yesterday.

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    I'll say one thing I'm happy to see is that NY rounded up 39 gang members in Long Island and deported them....happy to see this ...stock market has done well.....EPA ...not so much....I predict in the fall we'll see a pretty big dip in tourism and a huge dropoff in foreign college entrance students....it's going to hurt a lot of small businesses and colleges....Corvalis will take a big hit in enrollment while Australia, Singapore, Canada and New Zealand will get a lot of the Asian student market.
     
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    First, it's probably too soon to praise or blame a president for much this early in his term, especially since essentially no legislation has been passed.
    Second, however, he can probably be blamed for a huge hit on tourism to the US and the fact that the number of foreign students coming to US universities (and paying way more than US students, so in effect, subsidizing them) has TANKED.

    Really? REALLY? The only way manufacturing can "come back" is if
    a) it's cheaper here than in China/Pakistan/wherever Trump ties are made (impossible)
    b) it's to a fully automated factory, in which case the number of jobs created will be tiny
    or
    c) it's because of huge trade tariffs, which you as a FULLY CONSISTENT libertarian are of course violently opposed to.

    JESUS CHRIST GET THE QUOTE RIGHT! It's "nattering nabobs of NEGATIVITY". Have you no understanding of the power of alliteration?
     
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    Already happening - trust me, I work in a university and there is a reek of panic in the air.
     
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