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  1. Scalma

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    Moms spaghetti.
     
    Scalma, Jun 16, 2017
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    Don't need cap room to sign nurk. To save on luxury tax, sure but I'll let Allen worry about it.
     
    Scalma, Jun 16, 2017
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    I see how you guys feel about that rumor.
     
    Trackjack, Jun 16, 2017
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    A salary dump would be a chicken shit move by Neil.

    Give away an asset (first rounder) to cover your ass over a guy (be it Turner/Crabbe/Leonard) that YOU signed to their absurd contracts? FOH.
     
    Fez Hammersticks, Jun 16, 2017
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    Agree 100%!
     
    Gronk Brady, Jun 16, 2017
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    And watch one of them be the Nurk of the team they are traded to.

    I do know that it was different situations, but still... it'd be poetry.
     
    Strenuus, Jun 16, 2017
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    Therapy and meds saved my life. Beasley just needs the right doctor.
     
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    The rumors screaming: Let's save Olshey and fix his mistakes.
     
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    Is this thing really a "rumour". Just a bored blogger wasting our time imo
     
    SwissBlazer, Jun 16, 2017
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    I couldn't name the Nets starting lineup....don't know squat about Kilpatrick but he'd better be a stud to trade a first rounder, Turner and Leonard for...Turner to me is our second best defender.
     
    riverman, Jun 16, 2017
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    He's black
     
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    Not much has blown up in Ainge's face. He's a pretty good GM.

    On a personal level, I think Tatum will be the best player out of this draft, so I can't blame him for trading and getting a little value out of that #1 pick, for a say, a #3 pick
     
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    Bingo. And a dad who was wide recievers coach. Brother couldn't cut the mustard in the Pac-12 so he transeferred to Portland St.
     
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    I like Kilpatrick a lot. Lets just trade Kilpatrick and filler for Crabbe.

    Kilpatrick would instantly bring us toughness.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 17, 2017
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    I'd honestly absolutely hate giving up a first rounder to trade bad contracts. There is no possible scenario in which that makes us better. It's always better to have a decently talented youth player and someone like Turner or Crabbe (while overpaid, they are still NBA rotation players) than have nothing except cap space we cannot use anyway.
     
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    They won't salary dump. They don't need to yet, they just need to do it before the repeater tax kicks in.
     
    Pridan, Jun 17, 2017
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    FU on both those trade ideas, Fansided.
     
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    My anti-salary dump rant...

    The sole purpose of a salary dump is to save Paul Allen money... there are no salary cap benefits, since no trade would bring us far enough under the cap to sign a difference maker... and even if we did get enough cap room somehow, we have seen that no free agents will sign here...

    This is one of the deepest drafts in decades and the thought of Neil giving a pick basically for free makes me sick. He chose to offer those contracts when he could have just let those players walk... he knew what the salary implications were gonna be at that time.

    I like Neil, and I think he is great at evaluating young talent. He needs to use the picks and stock the team with as many assets as possible. A salary dump only to save Paul Allen money is not fair to Blazers fans that support the team.

    I'm sick of local media guys like Jay Allen spinning it like dumping salary is a good thing. Losing assets for nothing can close any potential opportunities in the future to go for title during Lillard's prime. And making room to sign Nurkic is not an excuse... we have his rights and can sign him no matter how far we are over the cap.
     
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    So this next week or so is pretty much our offseason right? Not going to be players in FA. Trades are easier when draft picks are involved. All lines up for a pretty busy week for Olshey and co.
     
    Scalma, Jun 17, 2017
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    Question

    Which center do you all think has the best upside in terms of defense and rebounding....in say 2-3 years?
    All of these guys are projected to go around 15-26. Who do you all want? And which pick are you willing to give up.
    There are some big boys out there and we need one of them.

    Bam 7'.3" wing 9.0 standing reach 38.5" max vertical
    Allen 7'.5" wing 9.2 stand 35 max vertical
    Patton 7'3 wing 9'3.5" standing reach 30.5" max

    Ike 7.6" wing 9.2.5 standing reach
    Pasecniks 7'2" tall (No other measurements I saw)
    Hartenstein 7''2" wing 9'1" stand reach

    I am intrigued with the athletic ability of Bam. And I think he is gone by 20. Back up center is 3rd on my priority list, but I still hate to pass on him. It will all depend on who else slips to 15.
     
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