If KCP/Otto Porter get max deals..

Any move by the Nets GM should have it's 'reality factor' questioned. All those picks they gave up for ageing players, Gerald Wallace for #6 pick Damian Lillard, offering that much for Crabbe. One could easily suggest that just because they do something doesn't mean it is what any other team would come close to considering as 'market value.

 

You have to also factor in the fact that, by trading away all those draft picks for aging players, they painted themselves into a corner. Usually, when a team sucks, they are rewarded with high draft picks, which, in theory, will eventually lead to a better record (less sucking). By trading away those draft picks for players that are now long one, other teams (us included) are being rewarded for BRK sucking.

Without any influx of young talent via the draft, and without being a destination of choice for free agents (mostly due to all the sucking, but also the high taxes and poor weather) their only option for acquiring young players it to overpay them to come there. That's what they attempted with Crabbe, but it failed. I'm sure they thought their offer was so onerous that we would not match. Well, we fucked them, and ourselves, over by matching their "toxic" offer sheet.

Don't ever judge fair market value based on what someone who is desperate will pay. A man who is dying of thirst will gladly trade an ounce of gold for an ounce of water. That does not mean water suddenly has the same fair market value as gold.

BNM

 

Answer: CJ McCollum is on the court for most of Crabbe's minutes.

I don't think I have to explain myself any further.

 

You do, because Redick shared the floor with Paul and Griffin and still finds plenty of shots. McCollum takes plenty of shots, but certainly not every shot. Crabbe should be able to find plenty of shots, were he willing to take some tougher ones. I don't think he has the confidence and, unless he's suffering from low self-esteem or something, that's probably founded on what he considers to be his skillset (shooting off the dribble, shooting with a hand in your face are both skills and not skills he exhibits much).

 

Chris Paul, the best pure point guard in the NBA, in the same sentence as CJ McCollum.

I can't.

 

So, that makes Crabbe the second option.

You do realize that J.J. Redick plays next to either Fatty Felon or Jamal Crawford when CP3 is not in the game, right? Both of those guys have a lower AST% than C.J. C.J. might not be the perfect back up PG but he's a more capable and willing passer than the Clippers back up PGs.

BNM

 

McCollum has averaged a ~20 Assist Rate the past two seasons. He's not (remotely) Chris Paul as a passer, but he is a good and willing one for a non-point guard. The point, though, is that Crabbe being a second option behind McCollum in no way closes the door to getting up as many shots as Redick, who's the third option behind Griffin and Paul. If McCollum were a black hole or something, perhaps there would be something to that, but he isn't.

 

1 million likes to you sir. Nice to see someone who gets it.

I love the way suddenly Allen Crabbe's passivity is someone else's fault. It's like people here intentionally forget how Stotts flow offense relies on constantly moving the ball. To those who think it's C.J.'s fault Crabbe doesn't shoot more, watch a game sometime. The Blazers have very few positions where one player dominates the ball. The ball is constantly moving around the perimeter, and inside and outside, making the defense shift and react until someone has an open shot. Guys like Meyers and Crabbe and Aminu have plenty of opportunities to take shots. It's up to them to capitalize on those opportunities.

BNM

 

Someone else who gets it...

BNM

 

Is no one else shocked that based on USG% we traded our 1/4 man, 3/4 amazing 4th highest USG% player for Hamiltons?

 

Then why wont someone trade for him?

 

Who says we want to get rid of him? The fans?

 

Somehow Nurk found enough shots... weird

 

Our luxury tax bill maybe?

 

Because trading crabbe is the only way to get under it?

And I'll start worrying about the luxury tax when the team does.

 

I mean if you want to retain any of your teams value aka Nurk you probably want his ~20% cap hold for someone who actually produces on the court and that goes a long way to getting there. Him and turner are the obvious candidates cause of the numbers attached to them. Turner is the better playmaker and defender so the obvious choice of the two I want to stay.

 

Getting rid of the contracts he signed last year.....or getting rid of other more decent contracts because of them?

 

If they get huge $$$, it'll mean that Crabbe and ET are more tradeable, and that their trade value goes up.

Feelings about their salaries, abilities, and histories are mostly immaterial.