in both incidents, the player that was hit didn't think it was intentional. I haven't seen the one with Marko Jaric, but the Manu one was complete crap. I think Stu Jackson has definitely gotten a lil paraniod since the brawl in N.Y. What do you think?
I definately think it was justified. The Manu one wasn't complete crap either. I was skeptical on wether or not Kobe was doing that intentional after the first hit. But the Marko Jaric one was the nail in the coffin for me, he clearly hit Jaric intentionally and Manu. I don't buy that he's finishing his shot stroke. I've never seen a stroke where someone violently throws one of his arms into someone. Also, a guy that does incredible dunks and acrobatic moves all the time can't control his arm after a shot so much that he hits someone? I don't buy that at all. He should have gotten fined and suspended.
I wouldn't go that far, I think Kobe just tries too hard to get the attention from the official by throwing his arms all over the place to make it look like he was fouled. He playes very hard, but he is not malicious.
The only reason he got suspended is because he is "Kobe Bryant"If it was a scrub coming off the bench, he wouldnt have gotten suspended.
I would have to say no. I think it's because he's a marquee name, he got suspended. I've seen some contact this year that has resulted in no suspension. It's just weird for certain offenses to be put under the microscope and others ignored. But this is the NBA.
LOL First people are saying, 'a normal player would get suspended, so a superstar should too' and now you're saying 'a superstar is the only one that can get suspended, not the normal player.'
Well it should be equal but this is the NBA, their screwed up and don't know whose ass to kiss.I think because it's Kobe, he got suspended. Antoine Walker recently forearmed Dirk above his neck and I don't remember any suspension coming out of that. There's just no line when it comes to rules in the NBA. They just go as the please.So and so does this one week, who cares. The next, sound the alarm.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't go that far, I think Kobe just tries too hard to get the attention from the official by throwing his arms all over the place to make it look like he was fouled. He playes very hard, but he is not malicious.</div>Atleast you guys aren't using the natural shooting stroke argument. I saw Bill Plascke arguing that on PTI and I fell over in my chair laughing. But, Getting attention? He pretty much bitchslapped Marko Jaric. That wasn't even drawing contact, that was just hitting somebody after he shot. Reggie Miller used to the same thing kobe did but did it discreetly and nonviolently. And if you think Kobe is just "playing hard" look at old footage of how Miller did it. Also superstars get calls in the league all the time so Kobe shouldn't even be trying draw attention in the first place. And if he's this unbelievable player, he shouldn't even have to resort to drawing fouls. I thought the suspension was lenient, should have been more.
Yes, he deserved a suspension. Not necassarily because of the action, but because he was stupid enough to keep doing the same intentional thing despite getting suspended once for the same movement.
I can see why he was suspended and the NBA was right for doing it because of the rules and everything, but I think suspendeding someone for little things like this is dumb.
Yeah.. they were justified. I don't know how throwing your arm into the defenders face can be part of a shooting movement. It just doesn't look natural.
First of all when did The nba become a bi*ch fit. Back in th 80's and 70's this might not have even been called a foul. Kobe gets mugged everyday and it doesn't get called so he throws his arms out when he gets fouled. Manu is a puss he got hit in the face so what be a man get up and get to work he should when an oscar for that performance. and when the marko one he sold that sh*t to. I hate to drop names but Kermit he layed out a superstar who was running at him when a brawl started and he got got looked at so bad for one main reason that the player was White who he knocked. and as far as your comment about drawing fouls MJ was the best at drawing a foul every great player can and does do it so that a BS comment. Kobe can make a shot on anybody and he is a great free throw shooter anyone with his shot would draw a foul. The nba is becoming like it was in the 40's and 50's where finese is the key and any contact is a foul. I have seen so many clean blocks this year be called a foul. in the 80's half the crap thats called wouldnt even be called. I blame whiny a$$ players like manu Tony parker Billups and deffinintly steve nash who complains if anyone touches him
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (point4seconds @ Mar 10 2007, 07:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First of all when did The nba become a bi*ch fit. Back in th 80's and 70's this might not have even been called a foul. Kobe gets mugged everyday and it doesn't get called so he throws his arms out when he gets fouled. Manu is a puss he got hit in the face so what be a man get up and get to work he should when an oscar for that performance. and when the marko one he sold that sh*t to. I hate to drop names but Kermit he layed out a superstar who was running at him when a brawl started and he got got looked at so bad for one main reason that the player was White who he knocked. and as far as your comment about drawing fouls MJ was the best at drawing a foul every great player can and does do it so that a BS comment. Kobe can make a shot on anybody and he is a great free throw shooter anyone with his shot would draw a foul. The nba is becoming like it was in the 40's and 50's where finese is the key and any contact is a foul. I have seen so many clean blocks this year be called a foul. in the 80's half the crap thats called wouldnt even be called. I blame whiny a$$ players like manu Tony parker Billups and deffinintly steve nash who complains if anyone touches him</div>Cry me a River. :cry2: BTW I agree with you on some of your points such as Kobe can make a shot on anybody and that the NBA is becoming a pussy sport with all it's touch foul BS but you can't blame players for this.