Science Right-to-carry laws make us less safe

River at least has his heart in the right place. I'm more concerned about people like Rasta; who not only spread propaganda, but actually believe it as well.

 

.....the NRA doesn't pass laws. Jesus Christ.

Maybe....just maybe....if your fucking lawyers and judges would be harder on felons instead of giving them plea bargains.....this wouldn't be so much of an issue.

But no.....blame the NRA instead. That's some straight up bullshit. Anyone with half a brain can look past his emotional crap and see the root cause of the issue there. Get judges and prosecutors on the bench who will enforce the goddamn laws as they were written, and send these motherfuckers to prison where they belong.

 

crock of steaming shit dude.....I want a safe country...there's a time to take up arms and it's not when you're going to school or a public concert or church, etc....but you keep trying to define me as if I live in some small minded bubble.....maybe you're projecting these things but it doesn't make for intelligent conversation...you romanticize about hundreds of years ago when women couldn't vote and people owned slaves and indentured servants...we've moved on. I'm not a guy who wants lawyers arguing for me...I'll speak for myself...comprendo?

 

YOUR opinion. In case if you haven't noticed, that's exactly where the headlines for violence have been in recent years. And those weren't the law-abiding gun owners that you have so much of a problem with. Those were criminals who don't care about laws, or your feelings on the matter.

So....you want a safe country. Good, so do I. I also want to be responsible for my OWN safety. And I don't need anti-gun folks or politicians deciding that for me.

Society has moved on, but violence is still violence, and it's still here. You're either prepared to face it when it happens, or not. The middle ground is you wait and see, and hope that the guy who just murdered 7 people in the store next to you at the mall doesn't come for you next.

Good luck with that, truly. That's not a chance I'm willing to take, so I'll carry where and when I feel it's appropriate, for my OWN safety.

 

I just watched a documentary last night about the Zeppelins. They were considered by the British to be "Weapons of Mass Destruction".

Crossbows used by the Chinese and British armies were once considered instruments of terror.

Boy, if only they could see us today....

Let's not forget that Charles Whitman murdered over a dozen people with nothing more than a common shotgun and a bolt-action 6mm Remington rifle in 1966.

Today's AR-15s will one day be tomorrow's relics. I wonder what anti-gun politicians excuses will be then?

 

Wow, don't know anything about that but sounds completely plausible.

 

nonsense....a six gun repeater is hardly an AK47 or a machine gun or a flame thrower or a nuclear bomb.....we can wipe out entire cities with one of those puppies....the guy who invented the machine gun in Spain was executed for crimes against humanity...they claimed it took the honor out of combat...now having any maladjusted angry person able to carry a gun that will shoot dozens of rounds in a second is a different ballgame...sporting rifles are repeaters...I've owned several....they are not assault rifles .....I'm not anti gun...I'm anti gun violence and don't see handguns or assault weapons as keeping the public safe ever...on the same line I don't want people building bombs or mixing up chemical weapons in their basement....when the Constitution was written they didn't say you could not make bombs or nerve gas or own a flame thrower, etc.....assault weapons fit that category to me.

 

This racist prick just said that young black kids who are guilty of misdemeanors should lose their constitutional rights. That's who he is talking about clearly.

 

Neither are AR-15s.

Then you are completely ignorant. As I have said before, there are numerous cases across the US every day of guns being used in self-defense, whether it's simply drawing the gun or shooting a guy who wants to rob your store.

By the way....AR-15s don't shoot a "dozen rounds a second". M-16s might come close, but they are HIGHLY restricted and VERY expensive. And any Select-Fire firearm made after 1986 is restricted to Law Enforcement Dealers and Military personnel only, and there are no exceptions to that.

See, this is why nobody listens to these kinds of arguments or takes them seriously. They are easily debunked and explained away, if only you use your head instead of your heart.

 

when the Constitution was written, those kids had no rights at all.....so you're saying our founding fathers were racist fucks who wrote the Constitution only for white men excluding only Irish and Italian immigrants, women, native americans and slaves?

 

This might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted here but I should have expected it. Welcome to my first real ignore. You've convinced me it is wise.

 

As much as I disagree with him, I would encourage you not to ignore him. That only gives ammunition to people's feelings; whether that be scorn or superiority. Argue logic, sense, and rational reason with him, and hope that he finds something you agree on.

 

Adios......I'll refrain from insulting your schpiel.....it speaks for itself

 

I was kidding. He'll never understand logic so I might just play along. He can't see this can he? He's on ignore.



Ha, still kidding.

 

>>> I got it. Sum it up. You don't give a shit what the Constitutions says, you reject it.
I find that un-American. That is the basis for Uniting the many States and you disrespect it.

>>> The classic display from the elitist liberal that wants to show disdain for the Constitution. I seems humorous to me that this also shows the lack of historical knowledge that all of these
ills you use, to trash the foundation of America, were not invented by the founders. But they have been corrected in the Constitution by constitutional procedures that you don't even recognize.

I think you make the case yourself, very well indeed, you don't give a shit what the Constitution says. That leaves little room for a discussion with a logical American.
The Constitution is the Law as it stands. Adjust your emotions to that reality.