Around the NBA - July 2017 Edition

kings offered Otto porter max

 

Who thought average players were gonna get 18 mill? Lol

Average players are gonna get Meyers money, which was an overpay for Meyers at the time, but looks to be pretty reasonable now.

 

Evan Turner hurts us on the offensive end. There's no doubt about that. He's versatile position-wise, but he's not a good offensive player. Lin is much better offensively. You overvalue versatility, and undervalue talent. Versatility doesn't equal talent.

Lin is a better defender than our guards, he's not as bad as you label him. What options does he give that we don't already have? A 3rd ball-handler that fits next to CJ or Dame. We don't have that. I could say the same thing... With all of Turner's "value" for being so versatile, what does he bring that we don't already have? Crabbe can play SG or SF, we have two players that can play PG in Dame or CJ...

Seriously though, what are you talking about??? You do realize that only one player can play only one position at once right? How the hell do we lose 6 players worth??? Sure, they can play different positions, but not at once. You can't put Turner, Aminu, and Vonleh on the court and have it equal 6 players. Even though they can cover all 5 positions with their versatility, it doesn't equal all 5 positions being covered without other pieces. The whole lineup is what matters more, not "versatility". A lineup of one-positional players that are all above average at their position is better than a lineup of multi-positional players that are below-average.

We don't need a player that can play PG, SG, and SF. We need a 3rd guard and a backup SF. We already have Harkless as a SF, with Crabbe being able to play there as well. Therefore, if you replace Turner with a 3rd guard who's better than him, you improve. It's not a negative because that play is only a 2-positional player compared to 3, because you don't need every role player to fill multiple spots. That's why you have your top 4 bench players be complimentary position-wise, and skillset wise, and we'd get that with a bench of Lin/Crabbe/Davis/Collins. Lin is a better compliment to the rest of the team because he can create for himself and others, but also spot up and shoot the 3-ball well.

How does Davis not have Vonleh's skillset? Davis can guard the 4 and the 5 just as well. Vonleh being a better defender of SFs doesn't mean anything... We shouldn't have him or Davis guarding SFs, and Vonleh will still get beat by good SFs anyway.

I was talking about examples of players we could get next year with the cap space. We could easily clear more space to go after a real difference maker by trading Crabbe with another future pick.

We replace Turner with Lin, which is an upgrade. We'd replace Aminu and Vonleh with Booker, which is also an immediate upgrade. We have enough bigs (Collins, Davis, Nurkic, Swanigan) to cover the rest of the minutes. We get rid of $17M this year and $28M-$40M next year. That's a huge positive. If we had another CJ to bring off the bench, that would be better than Turner. I don't care about Turner's awkward ass game where he can pass a little bit, defend a little bit, and score at an inefficient clip. It's not a good fit at all.

Lin's a better scorer, shooter, and passer than Turner. He's so much better, and would give us two dynamic offensive threats at PG and SG on the floor at all times. We don't need a lineup of awkward below-average unicorns.

 

How does it look reasonable now??? Meyers is a fringe NBA player. I don't see any fringe NBA players getting 4 years and $40M this summer.

Nene got 3 years, $11M. He's much better than Leonard and is making 3 times less.

 

Neil.

 

Probably, he shouldn't though.

 

Negative on Lin that he is injured alot that would be a red flag to me.

 

Davis probably won't be traded, as he's an expiring contract next year. My guess is that Neil will let him walk, especially if the rooks play well.... UNLESS, he's used as an asset to trade ET's contract.

 

Serious Question: Should the Wiz match?

 

Probably not, Oubre looked promising

 

I don't see how Porter fits Randavivs "Curry Criteria"...

 

"Otto Porter is the next Kevin Durant"

 

Yes.

 

Ya but we'd have all the Blazers games airing in Asia.

 

Deng, Mozgov, Biyombo, Fournier, Crabbe, Turner, Mahinmi etc. got that last year. Would any of them still get similar deals this year?

 

Can't play all 3 of Lin, Dame, and CJ at the same time. You can with Turner.

 

The only thing left about this offseason that interests me is if Melo remains a Knick or not. If he's not a Knick, does he go to the Rockets (oh this would be hilarious) or the Cavs?

 

If Meyers ever became even *competent* offensively his contract would be a BARGAIN given what contracts are going for nowadays. Hell, if he played like he did a couple years ago (not gonna look it up to figure out the stretch in which I remember him lookin ths way) he would get this kind of money. Fact is, right or wrong, 7' somewhat athletic 3pt shooters are RARE. I bet it is actually pretty easy to move Meyers', it's pretty easy for me to believe there is a team willing to take a shot on him because 'he just needs a change of scenery'. I bet Neil just doesn't want to give up on him and face the music.

 

Why not Portland?

 

This. So many are just assuming no one wants our players without even considering that the resistance could very well be coming from our own side. There have been worse contracts moved than Meyers. It's not an albatross.