Around the NBA - July 2017 Edition

Agreed. And if Batum was available this year he would be getting

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CJ/Damian said that the playoff series against the Warriors two years ago showed them they needed one; in fact, I believe Olshey even stated that they said they went to FO and told them specifically that's what they wanted and that is why he was aggressive in getting Evan Turner to the Blazers.

 

We've seen the whole team healthy for less than 15 games dude.

 

Damn man, there's so much to answer to here...

1.) We don't need anymore scorers because it's a replication of Dame and CJ? You can never have enough scorers. Lin would give us two multi-dimensional scorers in the backcourt at all times.

2.) Lin wouldn't need to play next to Dame AND CJ. Stotts always keeps one of Dame and CJ in the game, so a 3rd guard would play whenver one of them isn't in the game. We don't need our 3rd guard to be able to play SF. That's ridiculous. With Dame and CJ getting 35mpg, Lin would get a reasonable 26. Lin would also be a much better fit as a 3rd guard than Turner because he can replicate the scoring of whichever of Dame/CJ is out of the game, and he can also spot up and space for whichever one of Dame and CJ is in the game. It's not going to be a problem if our 3rd guard can't play SF. Having a requirement of our 3rd guard having to be able to play PG, SG, and SF is pointless when they're only backing up Dame and CJ...

3.) Golden State's success isn't due to positional versatility. It's due to talent. They have arguably the best PG who is the best shooter ever, a top 3 player in the league in Durant, and a DPOY in Green that can also shoot and distribute, to go along with a two-way guard in Thompson. Sure, they have positional versatility, because Durant is 7'0, and Draymond is the best defender in the league, but that's it. Thompson is the same size as Crabbe, and has no more versatility than him. Curry has no more positional versatility than Lin. Pachulia is strictly a C, who can't slide over to PF. You take away the talent from Golden State and they're not good anymore. While versatility helps, Golden State's success is due to an insane amount of talent.

4.) You do realize almost every NBA player can play 2 positions right? You're overrating the hell out of Vonleh and Aminu by saying "they can play 2 positions, so they're not easily replaceable".

Guess what, Lin can play 2 positions. Booker can play 2 positions. Harkless can play 2 positions. You're saying we should value Turner because he can play 3 positions, but he does so at a below-average level. He hardly plays PG, and with a 3rd guard, he would never need to play PG. That's exactly my point. With a bench consisting of players in certain roles and certain positions, you don't need the coverage of 3 positions by 1 player. Turner plays SG/SF almost exclusively, which is done by Crabbe as well. What is needed off the bench is a PG/SG (guard), and a SG/SF (wing).

5.) Why is losing Aminu going to fuck our rotation over because we'll lose that "SF/PF hybrid"? Aminu didn't even play at SF last year, so how do we lose 2 SFs??? With Turner playing backup SF behind Harkless, that leaves Crabbe playing exclusively SG. By replacing Turner, our backup SF with a 3rd guard Lin, it slides Crabbe over to backup SF. That means we don't lose a single SF. Aminu doesn't play there, and Crabbe goes from SG to SF and gets Turner's SF minutes.

6.) Vonleh's offensive game is still not better than Davis', and we're talking present tense here. Davis is just as good of a defender, and a much better finisher around the rim (which goes good with Dame and CJ in pick n rolls). I'm not talking about what they could be way down the road, I'm talking about what they'll bring next year.

7.) We don't need a SG/SF that can handle the ball. It'd be nice, but it's more important to have spacing there instead of ball handling, because a good shooting SF is much more help to Dame and CJ when they play together than a ball-handling non-shooter is. We do need two-ball handlers on the court at all times, which is what a 3rd guard like Lin would give us. We don't need a 3rd ball handler next to Dame or CJ, we need a shooting SF. If there's a lineup of Dame, CJ, and Crabbe, nobody will double off Crabbe onto Dame or CJ, and if they do, Crabbe will make them play. Crabbe increasing spacing, which relieves pressure of Dame and CJ, and is a release valve out of double teams because he's a shooting threat off the catch.

8.) "So you've traded away a future 1st round pick, Crabbe, Vonleh, Ed Davis, Meyers Leonard, Evan Turner, Aminu for Jeremy Lin and Cap Space,"
WTF???? I said to trade away a 1st, Vonleh, Turner, Leonard, and Aminu for Lin, Booker, and savings. I don't know where you got Crabbe and Davis from, and I don't know where you got the idea I was suggesting trading six players for one, As I'm saying trade four for two. It's really three for two since Meyers doesn't/won't play.

9.) Trevor Booker is worth trading Aminu and Vonleh for if it gets rid of Leonards or Turners contract. Booker is a better finisher and defender than either of them, which is what CJ and Dame need. I wouldn't do Booker for Aminu and Vonleh straight up, as Vonleh has potential and Booker is 29. However, if we're just talking about next year, then having Booker will make us a better team than having Aminu and Vonleh.

10.) Have a good day.

 

We don't need to have the rest of the team healthy to see Turner's fit at SF with Lillard and McCollum on the court with him. We saw that trio for a good portion of the year, and Turner isn't creating spot up 3s for either of them. What defender do you think is going to sag off Lillard or McCollum to help with Evan Turner??? The same Evan Turner that isn't quick enough to get by his man and who's favorite shot is a 12 foot pull-up that he barely shoots 40% on? Guards don't even help much anyways, it's bigs that do. To think that the threat of Evan freakin' Turner is enough to pull guards into the lane to create spot up opportunities for Dame and CJ is foolish, and it didn't happen when the 3 were playing together last year.

 

The issue there was that when one of Dame or CJ went out, there would only be one ball handler on the court because Henderson isn't one. When there was only one of Dame and CJ in the game, they'd get blitzed and have zero help. That's why we always need two ball-handlers on the court at the same time. Doesn't mean we need three.

 

I don't see how Nurk being a huge help to Dame and CJ means that Turner will get them open threes. Maybe I missed how that connects?

 

There goes my boy McLemore. Coulda had him with our MLE. Oh well.

 

Benny Mac 2 years 11 mil to MEM

 

Yikes, Millsap to Denver.

 

Teams around us getting better meanwhile we suffer because of olsheys shitty overpaying last summer. Meyers contract never should of happened. Crabbe should of been let go. Turner obviously was surprised he got offered that much. Crazy

 

Bruh... tl/dr

 

Maybe I'm being over dramatic, but if Utah keeps GH I really think we'll be the worst team in the division and miss out on the playoffs.

 

Olshey likes Meyers a lot. Stotts really does...not like playing him. It's a vicious circle because if you don't showcase him he's a lot tougher to sell off to someone else.

 

We may finish 5th in the NW :''(

 

My post was that long because it was in reply to another post that was that long.

 

Of course. WE WOULD HAVE WON IT ALL!!!!!

Well, maybe.....

 

That's the problem. Nobody wanted Meyers to come back last season and we resigned a guy who even given a lot of chances last season, show cased nothing. Same with crabbe. Crabbe is the same old non aggressive guy. Had a couple games where he showed out, other than that, didn't do much to live up to hat contract. No value with that contract