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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Minstrel, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    The best part about swaggy p in golden state is no more Ian Clark.

    Maybe we should sign Ian Clark just so we don't have to play against him anymore.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Yeah, but Anthony doesn't get him any closer to it, since he's not a star-caliber player anymore.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Boston has 4 rotation worthy SFs. They need to get rid of one, and they're not going to give away Avery Bradley, Crowder, and young assets, this completely gutting their team, for Carmelo.
     
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    Olynyk is about to land 15m+ per year. He's going to single handily make Meyers an asset. Let's fucking go.

    Shooting is pretty much identical.

    So are their offensive ratings. Defensive rating is close enough

    Leonard has better rebounding numbers

    Leonard is younger

    Leonard is cheaper

    Nets are evidently interested in Olynyk. They should be interested in Leonard as well.

    My argument isn't that Leonard is better than Olynyk. My argument is I'd rather have Leonard for 10m than Olynyk for 15+.
     
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    Really? I didn't realize that BOS was the best team in the league, and recently had the best W/L record in the history of the league. I also totally forgot that UTH just played BOS in the Finals.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Another player I was actually building some trades around in the trade machine: Marc Gasol

    And then I saw this -

    https://sports.yahoo.com/gordon-hayward-makes-celtics-true-east-contenders-142233448.html

    I guess it depends on how much Boston is willing to give up to add him. We could definitely get involved and throw them some young talent.
     
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    If Memphis trades gasol, they probably wouldn't have a need for someone like Crowder. Boston can reroute Crowder to Portland while we ship Memphis Vonleh and a pick or something.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The problem is the money. Gasol makes $22.6 million. So in order to clear enough space, you'd have to do something like this.
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yao8av75

    Bradley and Crowder wouldn't be especially interesting for Memphis, because they'd be essentially going young. So they'd want guys like Harkless, Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and Vonleh.
     
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    I am just now catching up to this thread so this may have already been mentioned but BOS has to clear some space as they don't have enough to sign Hayward outright to MAX currently. I have heard Smart is most likely to go but that Crowder is probably 2nd most likely.
     
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    That actually seems like a fair deal for everyone involved, even if we only have Bradley for one season.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    They're trying to reduce salary...both your Turner trades add salary to Boston. Not to mention, the only reason they'd want to deal Crowder is a small forward logjam. Trading Crowder and getting back a worse small forward (who makes much more) doesn't seem like something they'd do. ;)

    And Aminu/Vonleh isn't nearly enough value for Crowder and Smart, nor does it even save them much money. Only like a million bucks. They need to shed something like $3M.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It doens't make any sense for Memphis to trade for Bradley or Crowder. Those guys are role players at best. Bradley has one year left on his deal. Smart is a good prospect, but it would take at least Smart, Brown, and a pick. This is why I think we could get involved.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I don't think Portland has particularly attractive assets to get involved with. A group of people on this forum seems to think Vonleh is a valuable trade chip, but I have my doubts that he's seen as one league-wide.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Wonder if BOS is going to sell high on Tatum for Gasol.

    Tatum, next years philly pick, and salary filler for Gasol?

    That Philly pick is overrated, they could be outside the lottery next year.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I hear they're looking at Marc Gasol... :blink:

    Edit: Oops. @Natebishop3 beat me.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think a mix of young talent could be attractive. He's the thing, unless Boston is willing to offload their young talent to get Gasol, it's not gonna happen. And by young talent, I mean Tatum/Smart/Brown.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They would have to gut the team to do it by themselves. He makes 23 million per year. They don't have any big contracts to match up.
     
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    Yeah it looks like if Boston wants Gasol, they would have to dump crowder and Bradley's contracts. Memphis would have zero need for either one in a rebuild scenario. So you'd be looking for a team that not only has a need for crowder/Bradley, but also has cheap/young talent to send Memphis. Portland could be one of those teams. Vonleh and Harkless should interest Memphis.
     
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    Agreed - it's mostly wishful thinking on my part. But part of my wishful thinking included the idea that Turner would not strictly be playing SF, but would be able to play back-up at PG, SG, and SF, alleviating the logjam by turning two players into one, and allowing BOS to further jettison a PG without worrying about a replacement. But I think we're stuck with Turner on our roster for at least another season.
     

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