Science Right-to-carry laws make us less safe

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  1. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    I see you and Himmler have a lot in common.....
     
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    Too upsetting. Besides, haven't you seen the ear-severing scene in Resevoir Dogs? Sometimes less is more.
     
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    Actually it would be you who has a lot in common with Himmler since he never said that.
     
  4. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Are you sure you're not thinking of the "you must first disarm it's citizens" quote that is often cited by Hitler? That one is indeed false.
     
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    "I never said that!"

    - Heinrich Himmler


    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
     
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    What's more disappointing is that I could have made a pretty cool modern version of the throne from Game of Thrones with them.
     
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    Terrible, just terrible. Maybe it looks better in person.
     
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    You do realize that the site that Wikiquotes claims the quote came from does indeed contain many factual quotes from other people, right? Just because Wikiquotes can't verify it, doesn't mean Himmler didn't say it.

    But okay....for the sake of argument, let's assume that Himmler didn't say that.

    However, Hitler himself did indeed say this:

    Specifically, he was speaking of disarming Jews, not disarming a nation, since the Jews were not considered "citizens". Furthermore, Hitler was speaking of the need to disarm non-Aryans in the parts of Russia that had been occupied by German forces in the midst of a war. I assume this quote is misused as the "disarm it's citizens" quote that he never actually specifically said.

    Source:

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Hitler.27s_Table_Talks_.281941.E2.80.931944.29_.281953.29

    I also find it interesting something I found on Wikipedia:

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

    The one GLARING problem with this is:......no gun rights activists has ever argued that Jews alone could have stopped the Holocaust had they been armed. That is utter nonsense.

    What gun rights activists have ACTUALLY argued is that had they not been disarmed, they would have had a fighting CHANCE in isolated cases. Which I'm sure even Rasta can admit is better than submitting to death without a fight.

    Furthermore, the folly of using this argument by gun control activists is that it does not apply to the current US population, as over half of the country's population is armed. Whereas Germany had aproximately 1% of their population whom were Jewish.
     
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/07/lawmakers_pass_bill_to_take_gu.html

    Someone explain to me how this law will be effective when the Judge will not be allowed to view a person's past mental health.

    Of course not. The Medical History of all individuals are PRIVATE, as it should be.

    Furthermore....will the Defendant be allowed Due Process to present evidence in his defense when the Judge calls for him to turn over his firearms? Will he be allowed legal council?

    As Dam87 said in the comment section:

    I agree.
     
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    I'd say you're less safe with a gun. Other people in your circle, such as a child, could get their hands on it and shoot you, or you could shoot yourself by accident. You're also more likely to commit suicide if you have the easy means to do so.
     
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    It's thinking like that is why you won't survive the coming zombie apocalypse.
     
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    This is something...
     
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    zombies can't run....they shuffle like thorazin patients in an insane asylum....the only way not to survive them is to be unable to run...Kingspeed can run
     
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    A child will not get their hands on your gun unless you make it possible.
    You do not shoot yourself by accident. Only a fuckup will shoot himself, it is not an accident.
     
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    So owning a car means I'm more likely to be in a car accident?

    Yes, accidents can and do happen. But if you exercise strict safety at all times, the risks of such accidents are far reduced. If you are careless, then of course the chances of something bad happening go up.

    But as with all things....we shouldn't restrict a Right because a few morons among us want their girlfriends to shoot a phone-book on their chest with a .50 Desert Eagle.

    I've had a pocket knife of some sort since I was 11 years old. But I've only been cut once. And I learned: when closing a folding knife, move your finger out of the way of the blade.

    Haven't cut myself since, and I currently have 4 carry knives.

    Responsibility and exercising proper safety at all times are the keys to staying safe when owning or shooting firearms.
     
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    you cut and paste these posts, right? spoken like a loyal servant of an empire! (those who oppose my views should not be allowed to vote?) now that's some serious malarkey....having an opinion is not a matter of competence, it's a matter of opinion...a person of knowledge would be objective one would hope...but gun control seems to tug at your emotional heart strings
     
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