OT Lonzo Ball

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  1. riverman

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    My son is great....but my dad was a diehard republican Nixon loving redneck.....doesn't always follow a pattern. My generation sort of questioned the status quo more than most have though
     
  2. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    when I found out I was gonna be a father, I was terrified. My real dad left me and my mom, and my stepdad was a drunk and used to beat me. I had no positive role model's that were male figures in my life . How was I going to be a father? But I think what I went through taught me how to be a good father. At least I hope I am. I tried to do everything they didn't.
     
  3. riverman

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    Being a father is the one thing I got right in life and my father failed at miserably....my son is my best friend
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I'm not a parent, which is why I'm not offering parenting techniques. I've had parents, I've seen other people parent, I've seen other people who have parents, and I've read studies on the effects of parenting. I believe that I have plenty of basis to form an opinion on the limits of parenting. That's a lot different from considering myself capable of actually parenting like an experienced parent.

    I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Though, you've essentially already agreed with me when you noted that having terrible parents can make children go different ways. That illustrates that children are not simply reflections of their parents and the parenting they received.
     
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  5. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I'm a parent. I agree with Minstrel. I believe that as a parent, you can do the best you can. You can teach and guide and love and discipline. You can do everything "right", and end up with both a "good" kid and a "bad" one. Parenting is hugely important, but it isn't the only factor in the adults children become. I don't believe human beings are lumps of clay or completely blank slates from birth. People are born with personalities, tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Children also have other influences in their lives outside the control of even the most controlling parents. I don't know a single thing about the Lavar Ball family, so I'm not going to judge them. I hope the guy is happy, successful, and a good and generous citizen. Whether his dad is a jerk, or not.
     
  6. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    You're right, there's no such thing as a lazy nba player...
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, I was saying I'd love it if my son (or daughter) wasn't a tool.
     
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    Right. Like I said before our parents shape us. Some of us in the opposite direction.
     
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    But at some point he worked. He put hours in on his shot and dribbling ect. I know he became lazy but you have to work to develop.
     
  10. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    OK, now THAT was funny.
     
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    No, we must see this differently. Sometimes you reflect oppositely. Like I said before, My father was never there and my Dad was an ass. That shaped me and made me develop a laser-like focus on not being that way for mine.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    You're a terrific father, HCP. Except for that whole flat-brimmed hat thing.
     
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    But then there are kids who neither fully clone their parents nor fully reject everything their parents are. That's what I mean when I say children are people with their own personalities, tendencies, etc. Parents should do their best to nurture growth, help them develop themselves, help them avoid life traps, etc, but I don't think parents simply mold children into who they become. You had your own motivations that led you to be the exact opposite of your dad--not everyone in your position would have done that, or become exactly like your dad.

    Parents have a profound effect on their children (I fully recognize how much the way I think and do things has been inspired by my parents), but children are their own people--there are limits to how much you can "mold." You can't fundamentally change who another human is--you can help guide, within the parameters of who they are. That's my viewpoint, at least. I'm not trying to convert you, but that's where I'm coming from.
     
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    Most parents going raise there children the best they can. The real problem is the peer pressure with there friends that they run around with everyday. Some kids have it hard due there parents might not have much or abusive child hood and these type kids are searching for something out there even it right or wrong. There looking for that role model that will guide them in the right direction. I have see that has a coach and spending 20 years in the military as leader. LAVaR has done a great job with his kids and I really don't mind him thinking his kids are the greatest. Hell any parent that don't think there kids are the greatest then something wrong with you.
     
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    The Lonzo Ball hype is something I'll never understand. I've been his biggest critic. So many better guards in this draft than him. I realize its only one SL game, but what about him screams superstar potential???

     
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    His dad has been the main one screaming it, from what I can tell. Lucky for him, Magic Johnson seems to be one of those that believes him.
     
  19. riverman

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    Magic Johnson is about to have somebody bustin' his balls
     
  20. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Lonzo Ball personally said he was better than Fultz.
     

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