Politics Donald Trump Jr just confessed to Trump campaign election fraud

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I already showed you WaPost saying Clinton associates paid for the dossier.

    Here's Democrat Adam Schiff basically reading from the dossier. These Russian sources he believes sure seem to not be helping Trump. The Russians supposedly didn't help Clinton, either.

    This is the transcript of his opening statement at a public hearing of the House Intelligence Committee.

    http://time.com/4706721/comey-hearing-adam-schiff-transcript/

    According to Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer who is reportedly held in high regard by U.S. Intelligence, Russian sources tell him...

    According to Steele’s Russian sources...

    Also, according to Steele’s Russian sources...
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/10/forgetting-the-dirty-dossier-on-trump/

    “Steele, who had worked for Britain’s MI-6 in Russia, said he tapped into ex-colleagues and unnamed sources inside Russia, including leadership figures in the Kremlin, to piece together a series of sensational reports that became the basis of the current congressional and FBI investigations into Trump’s alleged ties to Moscow.

    “Since he was not able to go to Russia himself, Steele based his reports mostly on multiple hearsay from anonymous Russians who claim to have heard some information from their government contacts before passing it on to Steele’s associates who then gave it to Steele who compiled this mix of rumors and alleged inside dope into ‘raw’ intelligence reports.

    Besides the anonymous sourcing and the sources’ financial incentives to dig up dirt, Steele’s reports had numerous other problems, including the inability of a variety of investigators to confirm key elements, such as the salacious claim that several years ago Russian intelligence operatives secretly videotaped Trump having prostitutes urinate on him while he lay in the same bed in Moscow’s Ritz-Carlton used by President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama.

    “That tantalizing tidbit was included in Steele’s opening report to his new clients, dated June 20, 2016. Apparently, it proved irresistible in whetting the appetite of Clinton’s mysterious benefactors who were financing Steele’s dirt digging and who have kept their identities (and the amounts paid) hidden. Also in that first report were the basic outlines of what has become the scandal that is now threatening the survival of Trump’s embattled presidency.”
     
  3. barfo

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    The CIA also gets information from Russians. Pretty sure the Russian government isn't volunteering that info. There's a difference there.

    I see that you can't even provide the names of who paid for the dossier, much less the names of those who leaked it. Your standard of proof is a bit lacking on this.

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    Made the mistake of actually reading something Denny wrote. Felt thousands of neurons die screaming. Vow not to fall for that again.
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

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    Does information count as a "contribution"? That seems like a stretch. Or was there separate discussion of some sort of material consideration being provided by the Russians?
     
  8. barfo

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    I don't know (see prior disclaimer) but dozens of talking heads have said that contributions do not have to be cash, just anything of value. And opposition research clearly has value.

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  9. SlyPokerDog

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    I told you yesterday, the Republicans ordered and paid for it.

    True story.
     
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    he Donald Trump–Russia dossier is a private intelligence dossier that was written by Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 intelligence officer. It contains unverified allegations of misconduct and collusion between Donald Trump and his campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 U.S. presidential election and the period preceding the election. The contents of the dossier were publicly reported on January 10, 2017.[1]

    The dossier primarily discusses possible Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The media and the intelligence community have stressed that accusations in the dossier have not been verified. Most experts have treated the dossier with caution, but in February, it was reported that some details related to conversations between foreign nationals had been independently corroborated, giving U.S. intelligence and law enforcement greater confidence in some aspects of the dossier as investigations continued. Trump himself has denounced the report, calling it "fake news" and "phony."

    The dossier was produced as part of opposition research during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The research was initially funded by Republicans who did not want Trump to be the Republican Party nominee for president. After Trump won the primaries, a Democratic client took over the funding; and, following Trump's election, Steele continued working on the report pro bono and passed on the information to British and American intelligence services.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier
     
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    Creation of the dossier
    According to reports, the dossier was created as part of opposition research on Trump. The investigation into Trump was initially funded by "Never Trump" Republicans and later by Democrats.[5][6][7] In September 2015, a wealthy Republican donor who opposed Trump's candidacy in the Republican primary hired Fusion GPS, an American research firm, to do opposition research on Trump. For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee in May 2016, the Republican donor withdrew and the investigation contract was taken over by an unidentified Democratic client.[7][8]

    In June 2016 it was revealed that the Democratic National Committee website had been hacked by Russian sources, so Fusion GPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence, a private British intelligence firm, to look into any Russian connections.[7] The investigation was undertaken by Orbis co-founder Christopher Steele, a retired British MI6 officer with expertise in Russian matters. Steele delivered his report as a series of two- or three-page memos, starting in June 2016 and continuing through December. He continued his investigation even after the Democratic client stopped paying for it following Trump's election.[7]

    On his own initiative, Steele decided to also pass the information to British and American intelligence services because he believed the findings were a matter of national security for both countries.[9] However, he became frustrated with the FBI, which he believed was failing to investigate his reports, choosing instead to focus on the Hillary Clinton's email investigation. According to The Independent, Steele came to believe that there was a "cabal" inside the FBI, particularly its New York field office linked to Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani, which blocked any attempts to investigate the links between Trump and Russia.[9] In October 2016, Steele passed on what he discovered so far to a reporter from Mother Jones magazine.

    Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele.[9] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[7][6]

    In a court filing in April 2017, Steele revealed previously unreported information that in December 2016 he gave one more report to "the senior British national security official and sent an encrypted version to Fusion with instructions to deliver a hard copy to Senator McCain." This memo, dated December 13, detailed possible collusion between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign. It described secret discussions between four named Trump representatives, Kremlin representatives, and associated operators/hackers about how to secretly pay the hackers who penetrated the DNC computer system and also how to cover up the operation. Although paid by the Trump organisation, the hackers were controlled by Putin's administration. "Comey has confirmed that counter-intelligence investigations are under way into possible links between Trump associates and Moscow, and CNN has reported that the FBI used the dossier to bolster its investigations."[10]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier
     
  12. SlyPokerDog

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    Poor Denny.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    What drivel can he spew forth now?
     
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    No guys, Hillary did it.

    Like, she pissed on him in russia.
     
  15. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I would, strangely, watch that video.
     
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    I love hillary and I love donald trump!!!

    god bless america!!!!!
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    Poor Dog. His first citation says

    The investigation into Trump was initially funded by "Never Trump" Republicans and later by Democrats.[5][6][7]

    The rest of it is blather.
     
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    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

    A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    There's your smoking gun.

    Campaign official colluding with members of a foreign government to help Clinton and hurt Trump. Fake news and all.

    This sort of thing has eluded the Trump conspiracy theorists who have nothing even close to defensible accusations.
     

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