Repealing Obamacare

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  1. Denny Crane

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    You do realize that insurance isn't health care, right?

    Nobody "needs" it. Only big government does so they can pay off mega corporations by mandating the transfer of money from our pockets directly to those corporations.

    Wonderful.

    Pass.
     
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    My wife's going to be pretty pissed when she finds out that my insurance won't pay for her women related treatment because I'm a man and my health plan can't pay for women related care since I'm a man.
     
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    You're quite right, Denny. Blue Shield for all should be the goal.
     
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    YOUR insurance and HERS should be different, accordingly. Duh.
     
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    Wait till Denny hears about banks. Or maybe he already keeps notes stuffed in his mattress.
     
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    Signature worthy.
     
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    I know plenty about banks. I prefer the local neighborhood one over the giants, and wouldn't keep my savings there anyhow.
     
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    Poor people should jus t
    Glad you value my endorsement. If you said I was right it would be the cause of serious soul-searching.
     
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    So Denny: which state of nature would you rather live in: Hobbesian or Lockean?
     
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    Try being right sometime.
     
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    So I was wrong when I said you were right?
     
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    Lockean.

    Would you prefer the US turn into Venezuela? Seems so.
     
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    I credited you for being right on that one.
     
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    Nope. I pay one premium. I have one plan. My wife is also a beneficiary under the plan. We pay into a group. There are some customizations you can make to your plan. You are basically saying women, you need to pay higher premiums because having babies is expensive. You don't think there's something wrong with that?
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    When people say Medicare for all, they don't literally mean Medicare with no changes. It's simply a shorthand for a public option (Medicare you can buy into) or single-payer. It's an effective shorthand because Medicare is a type of socialized medicine that Americans have become familiar with and seen operate successfully for many years and therefore isn't frightening, the way specters of the old USSR are frightening to people.

    Right now, Medicare functions alongside supplementary insurance. Presumably, a "Medicare for all" plan would fold that supplementary insurance in. Either at a (subsidized) cost (Medicare you buy) or else as a wholly subsidized system (single-payer). Both of these are likely to be more palatable to Americans than other forms of socialized medicine because the health care delivery would remain in the hands of private industry (no "government doctors")--it would simply be financed for everyone by taxpayers.
     
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    You're saying having babies should be free?

    I am not following your logic. Having babies does cost someone.

    EDIT: I add, your wife doesn't need to be covered for prostate related issues.
     
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    Medicare is medicare, not some nebulous thing you imagine that nobody else does.
     
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    Women should pay for babies. After all, they're the ones having them. Why should men be subsidizing their baby needs?
     
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