The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    No I didn't. Nurk would be in foul trouble every night with Crabbe starting.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Completely unnecessary. The only stat that matters is the salary cap. How, exactly are we adding Wade, Melo and Lebron AND extending Nurk? Might as well say we're getting Westbrook and George, too.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Lol, already tried that...

    Prepare for disagreement.

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    Sadly, I'm not sure. Lean towards no.

    Mainly because of defense.
     
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    Dude, I literally brought it up as a fun question to think about, not as a possibility. I'm not advocating even trying or saying it's possible.

    The question was simply: Would Lebron consider Portland if we managed to add those two friends of his to our core?

    Not saying that we could, or would, or should try.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It could be done rather easily. But should we? Is it worth it?
     
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    It'd be a hell of a series... we'd certainly be better than the Cavs are now!
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Then the answer is no. Wade and Melo will just opt out and join LeBron with the team of his choice.

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    Hmm...played with it a bit, and this actually isn't terrible. NY gets the SF they want to replace Melo, and simply swaps one overpaid SG for another (younger) one. CHI gets a SG replacement for Wade, and gets a couple young prospects and an expiring PF for their trouble. And we really don't give up anything of massive value, except perhaps Harkless, whom most say needs to be upgraded anyway.

    Granted, CHI could probably get a better return than this for Wade, but I don't think it's too far off.

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    I would do that.
     
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    Dame/Turner
    CJ/Wade
    Melo/Layman
    Aminu/Swanigan
    Nurk/Collins/Leonard

    I'd probably hope for them to use their MLE to get a vet backup PG and move Turner to backup 3, but aside from that it looks very interesting to me.

    I think the Knicks probably would do it too. The Bulls are the question. I tried to give them decent value, but there's only so much you can do.
     
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    He's no use to them.... they dumped Butler for young players.

    I think Vonleh and maybe a pick would be enough.

    Is it worth it to us though? That's an awful lot to give up for a one year rental..... but that's exactly the kind of trade that Bob would have made.
     
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    If that's the case, the same deal with PCNGC instead of Napier also works (and makes more sense for us).

    And is Crabbe/Harkless/Vonleh really all that much to give up for a pair of 1-year rentals? Especially considering Vonleh's up for RFA next summer, and Crabbe's so severely overpaid?

    I mean, if it hypothetically happened (using PC), and then Wade/Melo left next summer, we'd still have as of summer 2018:

    Dame/Napier
    CJ/Turner
    Aminu/Layman
    Swanigan/Collins
    Nurkic/Leonard

    That's still basically a full squad, still with youth and potential, and back to decent financial flexibility.
     
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    Considering Anthony has an opt-out after next season, I could see James wanting him on Cleveland. He's not forcing a friend to commit there any longer than he's committed there.

    I don't think he wants Anthony instead of Love, though. While James may not be great friends with Love, he knows Love is basically one-third of their entire talent base. He wants to close the gap on Golden State, not ship out of their only good players to get a declining Anthony.
     
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    Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

    If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

    Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

    Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
     
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    Pippen! without a doubt
     
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    I would take Pippen over Melo any day.
     
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    Pippen was still an excellent defender, ball-handler, distributor, and overall leader. Melo brings very little aside from inefficient scoring ability.

    No contest.
     
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    Pippen, easily. He was about as efficient a scorer, still a really good distributor and still one of the best defenders in the game. The value he brought beyond just personal production was that he was capable of being the "quarterback" on both offense and defense, communicating and making sure everyone was on the same page. I remember during the Western Conference Finals, Phil Jackson said something like, "We have Shaq and Kobe, but they have Pippen who's kind of keeping it all together for them."

    Anthony largely just brings scoring (more than Pippen at that point in his career, but on similar efficiency).
     
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