Politics Trump asking if he can pardon himself

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  1. Denny Crane

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    It's still cherry picking. It's hard to fathom Colin Powell falling for cherry picked false intelligence reports. What's clearly the truth is that much of it was dire threats. The CIA et al covering their behinds after the fact is ... how they do things.
     
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    yea..........................ok................................................no your wrong
     
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    in your attempt to equate wickileaks assertions and how you choose to believe them over the conclusions of three separate investigations by 3 separate intelligence agencies is strictly fanciful legerdemain in an attempt to obfusticate the facts that contradict your fanciful theories. I expect better. Russia was responsible. quit wasting our time.
     
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    I ask for proof and have seen none. I don't care about obfuscating any facts, but bringing any to light.

    I do not trust "3 separate agencies" opinions. Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof, and proof is not what they've provided. Anybody with any level of sophisticated knowledge about how hacking is done, and who isn't blinded by partisanship, wants proof, too.
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-attack-moldova-idUSKBN18R1UJ

    All the hallmarks were there: targeted phishing emails common to government espionage, an advanced Trojan horse for stealing data from inside organizations, covert communication channels for grabbing documents and clues in the programming code indicating its authors were Russian speakers.

    It took weeks before the lead cyber spying investigator at Symantec, a top U.S. computer security firm, figured out instead he was tracking a lone-wolf cyber criminal.

    DiMaggio won't identify the name of the culprit, whom he has nicknamed Igor, saying the case is a run-of-the-mill example of increasing difficulties in separating national spy agency activity from cyber crime. The hacker comes from Transdniestria, a disputed, Russian-speaking region of Moldova, he said.

    "The malware in question, Trojan.Bachosens, was so advanced that Symantec analysts initially thought they were looking at the work of nation-state actors," DiMaggio told Reuters in a phone interview on Wednesday. "Further investigation revealed a 2017 equivalent of the hobbyist hackers of the 1990s."

    Reuters could not contact the alleged hacker.

    The example highlights the dangers of jumping to conclusions in the murky world of cyber attack and defense, as tools once only available to government intelligence services find their way into the computer criminal underground.

    Security experts refer to this as "the attribution problem", using technical evidence to assign blame for cyber attacks in order to take appropriate legal and political responses.

    These questions echo through the debate over whether Russia used cyber attacks to influence last year's U.S. presidential elections and whether Moscow may be attempting to disrupt national elections taking place in coming months across Europe.
     

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