Who are players that only have one threat to their game?<u>Offensively</u>Shaquille OnealKyle KorverJason KapanoDwight HowardBrent BarryBen Wallace<u>Defensively</u>Steve NashCharlie VilleneuvaMike JamesShaun LivingstonI just named a handful off the top of my head, see if you can add any.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 13 2007, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who are players that only have one threat to their game?<u>Offensively</u>Shaquille OnealKyle KorverJason KapanoDwight HowardBrent BarryBen Wallace<u>Defensively</u>Steve NashCharlie VilleneuvaMike JamesShaun LivingstonI just named a handful off the top of my head, see if you can add any.</div> :wtf1:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Mar 13 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:wtf1:</div>exactly what I was thinking :S
I don't get this list at all. Brent Barry? Maybe now, but back in the day he was a great offensive player, he could rebound dish the ball and do other things than just shoot. And Shaq?? Shaq only had one threat to his game? Was it backing someone into the ground, or dunking over anyone, or drawing triple teams and dishing the ball to the open man? This list has a ton of flaws.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 13 2007, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get this list at all. Brent Barry? Maybe now, but back in the day he was a great offensive player, he could rebound dish the ball and do other things than just shoot. And Shaq?? Shaq only had one threat to his game? Was it backing someone into the ground, or dunking over anyone, or drawing triple teams and dishing the ball to the open man? This list has a ton of flaws.</div>haha, owned.But yeah, I don't get this list either. Dwight Howard is also a multi Threat, he can dunk over you, he has great speed, and on D he is a beast. Outrebounds the best, an blocks the rest.Most players in the NBA are pretty diverse in there game. The only real 1 dimensional dudes I can think of are slow strictly 3 point shooters, and big men with no speed who can only rebound ETC. I think Adam Morrision for the Charlotte Bobcats is very 1 dimensional. He can't drive, his handles kinda suck, and his D is aweful. The only thing he really excels at is 3 point shooting.
That list makes no sense, but I will list some players....Ben Gordon. He is just a scorer and nothing else really.Kyle Corver. Flat out shooterCarmelo Anthony. He only plays on one side of the ball...There are others, but you get the idea.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 13 2007, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get this list at all. Brent Barry? Maybe now, but back in the day he was a great offensive player, he could rebound dish the ball and do other things than just shoot.</div>Yes, sorry for talking about the NBA today. Also he was never a good offesnive player, His highest I believe in his career was 14 PPG.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 13 2007, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And Shaq?? Shaq only had one threat to his game? Was it backing someone into the ground, or dunking over anyone, or drawing triple teams and dishing the ball to the open man? This list has a ton of flaws.</div>Passing it to your teammates makes you a great offensive player, that's why players like Steve Nash, Deron Williams, etc.. Are the best offensive players in the game right now. and Have you ever seen Shaq grab the ball on offense and not post up, or back up into someone? Your brain has flaws.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 13 2007, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And Shaq?? This list has a ton of flaws.</div>God Dammit, What does 'One Dimensional' Mean to you?<u>Offensively</u>Shaquille OnealI explained it above, Oneal has one threat to his offensive game, I didnt say he was bad at it, but the NBA can agree with me that he does back up into people a whole lot.Kyle KorverHe doesn't drive much, his outside shot and 3 point shot is what he lives by. Live by the jump shot die by the jump shot player.Jason KapanoSame as Korver basically, but he does have a mid range game, but not as much as his outside shotDwight HowardDwight Howard mainly posts up near the basket, and outside of 8-10 feet has no real offensive game.Brent BarryFrom what Ive seen Barry of the past couple years, and his career mostly, he hovers around the perimeter, and rarely drive.Ben WallaceHe just shoots from the mid range, you don't see him drive a whole lot, and if you dump him the ball he will occasionaly dunk it for you.<u>Defensively</u>Steve NashEven his perimeter D has flaws, the most he does is take a charge now and then like Mavsfan said.Charlie VilleneuvaHis shoulders are lubricated, and has no real defensive presence. He is a good rebounder though, (In case y'all didnt notice, ONE DIMENSIONAL)Mike JamesHe is good at getting steals, but thats about it, he wont bother your shot much, and he will let you shoot over him.Shaun LivingstonSame as James, very good stealing average, not a lockdown defender, and gets harrased by the bigger guards.
Korver isn't as one dimensional as he used to be... he drives more now (although tends to set up players), crashes the offensive boards, posts up the smaller man, etc. Obviously the majority of his offensive game revolves around his shooting (as it should, because you play to your strengths), but he is less one dimensional than he used to be offensively, in my opinion. Every year he adds something else to his game, and makes a lot of improvement/progress.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, sorry for talking about the NBA today. Also he was never a good offesnive player, His highest I believe in his career was 14 PPG.</div>RaptorsFan do you even know what one-dimensional means? Your making no sense with your logic or reasoning. When people talk about a player being one dimensional they mean he's only good at one thing. You have a few good ones up there but your calling players who can do a lot of things one-dimensional, which isn't true.All I was saying is that Brent Barry hasn't always been just a guy coming off the bench and shooting a couple of threes like he is now. He had multiple seasons of having 4 or more assists per game as well as grabbing significant rebounds. He has always shot phonomenal percentages both 3PT and regular FG's. Just because he doesn't score 40 points a game doesn't mean he has more "dimensions" to his game. If anything, he was the complete opposite of being a one-dimensional player. He had many dimensions and was a very versatile offensive player in his prime.Your also calling Shaquille O'Neal, one of the most dominant centers of all-time, one dimensional. That is just retarted. Literally, retarted. My sister could make a smarter comment than that. This guy could do everything as a big man. You're an idiot for calling Shaq one-dimensional.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Brent BarryFrom what Ive seen Barry of the past couple years, and his career mostly, he hovers around the perimeter, and rarely drive.</div>That's also retarted. Brent Barry won the slam dunk contest in 1996 and was one of the most athletic players in the league at this time. Either you're 10 years old and never saw that or have no idea what you're talking about.
It's hard to say someone's one-dimensional defensively. Everyone plays defense, even if they are bad at it. Offensively is much easier to debate. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Have you ever seen Shaq grab the ball on offense and not post up, or back up into someone?</div>What the hell do you want him to do, shoot a three? I have seen him do skyhooks, He draws the double team and dishes out to the open target. Honestly, almost every center besides Mehmet Okur(sp?) only offense is by the post. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight HowardDwight Howard mainly posts up near the basket, and outside of 8-10 feet has no real offensive game.</div>Again, he is a center. He is not going to have an outside game.When you categorize your list as offensively do you mean their only threat is offensive, same goes with your defensive list? I don't really understand your list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 13 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaun LivingstonSame as James, very good stealing average, not a lockdown defender, <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">and gets harrased by the bigger guards.</span></div>HAHAHAHAHAHASorry, I had to LOL at that. There are no bigger guards than Shain Livngston.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 13 2007, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben WallaceHe just shoots from the mid range, you don't see him drive a whole lot, and if you dump him the ball he will occasionaly dunk it for you.</div>He isnt known for his offenive skills though. He gets paid to pick up boards and play great defense, hence he won defensive player of the year like 2 times (I think). People dont expect him to get 20 and 10 a game, they expect him to get like 8ppg and 10rbgI also hate how people are still calling Kyle Korver a 100% shooter. That was his first and second years. He has developed his inside skills now.
This thread sucks.JJ RedickWally SzczerbiakKendrick PerkinsLeon PoweLike BCB said, stop making list threads, they're boring.
[quote name='WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE' post='308084' date='Mar 13 2007, 03:44 PM']All I was saying is that Brent Barry hasn't always been just a guy coming off the bench and shooting a couple of threes like he is now. He had multiple seasons of having 4 or more assists per game as well as grabbing significant rebounds. He has always shot phonomenal percentages both 3PT and regular FG's. Just because he doesn't score 40 points a game doesn't mean he has more "dimensions" to his game. If anything, he was the complete opposite of being a one-dimensional player. He had many dimensions and was a very versatile offensive player in his prime.[/quote]I am still talking about now, I guess you dont understand that.[quote name='WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE' post='308084' date='Mar 13 2007, 03:44 PM']Your also calling Shaquille O'Neal, one of the most dominant centers of all-time, one dimensional. That is just retarted. Literally, retarted. My sister could make a smarter comment than that. This guy could do everything as a big man. You're an idiot for calling Shaq one-dimensional.That's also retarted. Brent Barry won the slam dunk contest in 1996 and was one of the most athletic players in the league at this time. Either you're 10 years old and never saw that or have no idea what you're talking about.[/quote]Theres a reason I said offensively he is a one dimensional players, once again, you fail to see that. I never said he was bad offensively, did I? Im sure your sister is pretty smart but you don't have to bring her up.[quote name='Pacers fan forever' post='308148' date='Mar 13 2007, 05:20 PM']HAHAHAHAHAHASorry, I had to LOL at that. There are no bigger guards than Shain Livngston.[/quote]Are you stupid? Tracy Mcradgy is an example of big gaurd, 6'9" hes huge. Lebron James when he plays gaurd, is huge, Shaun Livingston is skin and bones[quote name='coyn3burglar' post='308088' date='Mar 13 2007, 03:49 PM']What the hell do you want him to do, shoot a three? I have seen him do skyhooks, He draws the double team and dishes out to the open target. Honestly, almost every center besides Mehmet Okur(sp?) only offense is by the post. Again, he is a center. He is not going to have an outside game.[/quote]Dirk Nowitszki, Kevin Garnett, Zaza Pachulia all have outside games. Once again 'dishing' it does not mean your good at offense.[quote name='Bobby' post='308166' date='Mar 13 2007, 05:34 PM']He isnt known for his offenive skills though. He gets paid to pick up boards and play great defense, hence he won defensive player of the year like 2 times (I think). People dont expect him to get 20 and 10 a game, they expect him to get like 8ppg and 10rbg[/quote] I think thats why I called him one dimensional offensively.[quote name='Bobby' post='308166' date='Mar 13 2007, 05:34 PM']I also hate how people are still calling Kyle Korver a 100% shooter. That was his first and second years. He has developed his inside skills now.[/quote]He still shoots about 4 threes a game, so he is still and outside shooter.[quote name='coyn3burglar' post='308088' date='Mar 13 2007, 03:49 PM']When you categorize your list as offensively do you mean their only threat is offensive, same goes with your defensive list? I don't really understand your list.[/quote] Your close, I meant whats a player that has only one threat to their offensive game. Also for defense, a guy like Ben Wallace has much threats, rebounding, blocks, etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dirk Nowitszki, Kevin Garnett, Zaza Pachulia all have outside games. Once again 'dishing' it does not mean your good at offense.</div>Except Garnett and Dirk are PF's not centers. Also, I am pretty sure assists, and passing are determines how well you do on offense. Look at Steve Nash, he is known as a big offensive threat because he can pass so well.
