Merged: Crabbe Traded to Brk

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It's CrabbeSanity!!!

 

Sounds like a leader.

 

Lot of talk about his money lol

 

Not in the first part of the article. In fact I just read the whole thing and I don't agree that he talked about his money a lot.

 

Look at @theprunetang's pic. It's perfect. There aren't really any parameters. tbh.

 

Wow, is their defense going to suck. Dame and CJ are going to light them up like a Christmas tree.

 

Are you serious?

Find a player that elevated his came from one trick pony to even an all-star at age 25.

 

He wasn't gonna "break out" here. He got every opportunity to show how passive and one dimensional his game is. Now it will be on full display in front of an unforgiving crowd.

 

Brooklyn has crowds?

 

You all make great points, but he was the third-best shooter in the NBA. In this day and age, with shooting so predominant, that arguably makes him the third-best scorer in the NBA.

And since offense is more important than defense on an individual level, that arguably makes him the third-best player in the NBA.

I don't know, guys, talk me down from this ledge.

 

So apparantly, the Blazers have not actually waived and stretched Nicholson yet. Are they seeing if they can include him in a trade, or are they thinking of actually keeping him? He had a serious neck injur i 2016 and has not played much since.

Nicholson does have some one on one postup skill.

 

Shouldn't be too hard.

Crabbe was not the 3rd "best" shooter in the league last season and he sure as hell wasn't the 3rd best scorer in the league.

He was 2nd in 3FG%, but ranked tied with Brook Lopez for 46th in made 3-pointers. He shot a high percentage, but on fewer attempts than most other players in the top 50 in made 3-pointers. There were 17 players that made more 3-pointers than Crabbe and also shot >.400 3FG%. Many of those players made 2x more 3FGs than Crabbe did. Even Ryan Anderson, who nobody wants, made way more 3FGs than Crabbe (204 vs. 134) and shot .408 3FG%.

And that's the one thing Crabbe does well. There are other ways to score than making wide open 3-pointers. Of the players who played at least 24 MPG, Crabbe ranked 100th is scoring. He doesn't drive to the basket and he doesn't get to the FT line. By my count that makes him the 100th best scorer in the league, not the 3rd best.

In terms of overall production, Crabbe does very little other than knock down wide open 3-pointers. Of the top 50 players in made 3-pointers, Crabbe was 47th in PER. For the last two years, he's been one of the worst rebounders in the league for his size. His AST% of 6.1 is pathetic for a guard. Meyers Leonard is better at creating opportunities for his teammates than Allen Crabbe (2016-17 AST: Allen Crabbe 6.1, Meyers Leonard 8.4; 2015-16 Allen Crabbe 7.2, Meyers Leonard 10.6).

Crabbe's lack of a decent handle makes it difficult for him to create shots for himself. He was assisted on 77.5% of his 2FGs and 97% of his 3FGs. That means Crabbe only created 38 2FG and 4 3FG for himself all season, basically 0.5 FG/G that were not created by others.

Yes, he can make open 3-pointers, but he can't create for himself, or others, is a terrible rebounder, a pathetic passer and a weak defender. His raw numbers will go up as a starter with an increased role on a bad team, but he is who he is. It's not like he's suddenly going to develop a C.J. like handle or become a lock down defender or a rebounding stud. Without Dame and C.J. next to him, defenses will focus more on stopping Crabbe (i.e. not leaving him open at the 3-point line) and force him to put the ball on the floor. They will take away his one strength and exploit his many weaknesses.

Some here are predicting Crabbe will break out and become an all star in the weak Eastern Conference. I don't think he has a chance in hell. The East may be weak, but it's not that weak.

BNM

 

How about this guy? http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3686/clyde-drexler

 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallage01.html

 

What???? Clyde was an all star in his third season in the league at the age of 23. Crabbe is 25 and entering his 5th season.

In terms of style of play and strengths/weaknesses you really could not have picked two more dissimilar players. Clyde was the EXACT opposite of a 1-trick pony. He is the only player in NBA history to have totaled more than 20,000 points, 6000 rebounds, 6000 assists and 2000 steals. That makes him at least a 4-trick pony.

His 5th season in the league, at the age of 25, Clyde averaged 27.0 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 5.8 APG, 2.5 SPG with a PER = 24.1. Crabbe will NEVER come close to those numbers. He'll be lucky to average half that.

BNM

 

Gerald Wallace was never a 1-trick pony. Even before he became an all star he was a good rebounder and a lock down defender. At the age of 23, he averaged 7.5 RPG and lead the league in STLs at 2.5 SPG.

Crabbe will never come close to those numbers - and that was Wallace at 23. By the time Wallace became an all star, he was averaging 18.2 PPG, 10.0 RPG and 1st Team All Defense. Allen Crabbe will never come close to any of those things.

BNM

 

Gerald Wallace is one of the best examples of a guy who was slow to develop into his potential. I can't think of a better example than he actually. But he was already starting to peak 23. Just look at his numbers. His prime was 24-28 before he really started to drop off.

 

Ya unless these guys usually give some inclination if they have star potential. Never really see a guy 25+ pop to a whole new tier.

Steph is probably the best recent example.

 

Some of you seriously need to have your sarcasm meter checked.

Minstrel is fucking with you.

Of course, BNM will never turn down an opportunity to educate about all things Allen Crabbe