Politics Civil War part 2! Which side will you fight for?

The investigation is carried by a government agency following the letter of the law - there is nothing wrong with that - and as I said, if no foreign influence happened - the administration will come out of it smelling like roses - logically, and that's my point, the administration would be happy to have this investigation if they were so certain it was 100% free and clear of all wrong-doing.

If the election was won legally - that's great. If not - we as citizens would want to know that there is a way for us to know that if a foreign country is trying to meddle in our affairs - we have the legal ways to fix it - that's all I am saying.

 

I remember it all too well. They have not even approach anything like those days. Stand down, just stand down.

 

Investigate the shit of it!!! You do not need a special counsel answerable to no one to do that. You have an FBI and a CIA for that function. Both are answerable to the President by the authority granted to the President in the Constitution.

 

Better hurry up, witnesses are dropping like flies.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-apos-apos-sexiest-motorcyclist-200000986.html

 

I don't think you have been following the Putin regime.

 

You got it. The house does this work, they are answerable to the people. Not some untouchable, sheltered to do what ever the fuck he wishes.

 

Does he offend you? aw well.

 

Of course you need a special counsel if he investigates the president, otherwise it will be like calling a murderer to offer expert advice in the trial if something made sense to do during a murder.

As a citizen you should be happy this is happening - it shows that we can be certain our votes are really what counts - not some foreign country. Honestly - to be against this would be, quite frankly, un-American. If we do not do that - what next, should we stop looking at spies and traitors?

We have a very unique situation here - I do not believe we ever had a situation where there were so many signs of foreign meddling in an American general election - and that's why we have such a different investigation.

It all comes down to one thing, if the administration is in the clear, it should encourage this investigation, not hinder it - because they will be the biggest beneficiary of it.

 

Is this the old man version of "you made bro?"

 

If you think, Congress thinks the President committed a High Crime then, the House of representative is the only lawful place to proceed. If they screw it up, the people can kick them out. If they prevail then the Senate can remove the President, and then answer to the people. As it should be.

Hell they won't do that!! Stick their necks out like that. You guys are enabling the weak to hide behind the special counsel.

 

I will say it again. Clown. Showman. Reality TV star.

http://www.gq.com/story/trump-17-day-vacation

 

Trump should fire Rosenstein. Might as well get it on. It is a fucking joke as is.

 

So, I am not certain what you are opposed to - that an investigation is taking place, or who is doing it?

The investigation was started by the FBI, managed by the DOJ, because the AG was a part of the campaign that is investigated he recused himself from the investigation (which was the right thing to do) - so a special counsel leads the investigation. It is pretty clear that the house and senate already believe there was meddling (thus the sanctions against Russia), the investigation is to find out if the campaign colluded with a foreign country or not. The administration has been less forth-coming than most - no tax returns before the election for example - so the investigation is taking longer.

So, what exactly is it that you are opposed to -

1. Making sure our democracy is protected?
2. That the AG which was part of the campaign that is being investigated recused himself and thus a special counsel was appointed?
3. That the FBI and the DOJ lead the investigation (that's their role, after all).

I really am not certain what it is that you oppose to.

 

This whole thread is amusing me but this is the part that really cracks me up. If he can fire Rosenstein, he can fire him. Is there a union Rosenstein is in that precludes this?

If he can fire him, let's say Rosenstein carjacks a group of nuns and catches their car on fire and drives it into a playground full of children. Is Rosenstein safe from being fired now because it would be obstruction of justice?

 

The Congress can also appoint a special prosecutor. It's not something new--one was appointed to investigate Ronald Reagan, one was appointed to investigate Bill Clinton. Trump's not getting some brand new treatment, some dirty trick.

 

I believe that the point is that the house and senate, despite being from the same party as the president - are already willing to work against his wishes (see Sanctions, Russia). The administration already fired the head of the FBI - the one doing the investigation - another firing of the branches of government that handle the investigation - and the house/senate will be more likely to take action.