OT What NBA players will "break out" this season?

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  1. RipCityDSCPL

    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    Why is that so impossible? Maybe Stotts' didn't tell him word for word, but I think I can guarantee he did tell Allen what his 'role' ( their's that pesky word again.)was while he was a member of the Blazers and one of two guys named Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum where playing for the Blazers.

    You can't have all five guys on the court trying to break down their defender and taking them off the dribble every play or most of every play in a game. When that happens watch your ball movement and pace of play fall with a THUD. You HAVE TO have at least 2 players on the court to take a step back and accept a smaller role (uh oh, there is that word again.) for the betterment of the success of the team.

    That is what Crabbe did for the Blazers. Now he is not a member of the Blazers, so he no longer has to fill that 'role'( Is three a charm?)anymore.
     
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  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    After the Blazers trade him
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    This one really pains me, but Clint Capella is going to have a really good season. He was a bit inconsistent with his play and stamina last year, but with more minutes, and less big man competition (especially if Ryno is traded), he is going to be the recipient of so many easy layups and dunks from CP3 and Harden. He isn't super skilled, but he moves well and is above average at rolling to the rim.

    I am going to cut my fingers off for typing this. Expect every post of mine to be "Voice-to-text" from this point forward.
     
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  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Especially when only two guys on your roster are capable to taking their defender off the dribble.

    You think Stotts was the one preventing Crabbe from breaking his man down when he and C.J. were the only scorers in the game? That's just plain silly. The past two seasons this team struggled so much to score when Dame came out of the game Stotts would have welcomed anyone else stepping up and taking some of the pressure off C.J. on the second unit. The problem is no one else on the roster had that ability - certainly not Crabbe.

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    Apparently so is the entire league...dude still isn't signed anywhere....Beijing would be my guess for TRob
     
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    Crabbe played a lot even his first two years...he couldn't crack the starting rotation...CJ was injured and really didn't play much his first two years but wasted no time filling in when Wes went down and owned the job from there on.....big difference...if AC were that great he'd have sent Batum to the bench and owned that job as well....he just wasn't.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Where he will have a breakout year!

    BNM
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Eye axe peck paddy baseball too half a brake out season as well. Something tails me that the front office has faith inn hymn.

    Sorry. Eye donut half my voice too text dialed inn as of yeti.





    Ps. Eye really should knot half cut my fingers off.
    Fuck.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Crabbe was never going to beat out anyone for a starting role here - not Nic, not Wesley, not C.J., hell not even Evan Turner. From the comments made after the trade, it sounds like BRK is handing him a starting job, but I wonder how long that will last.

    It sort of reminds me of all the Sergio fanbois who kept insisting that Sergio was going to breakout once he got out from under Nate's rigid coaching style. One even insisted Paul Westphal was Sergio's Frank Layden who would turn Sergio into the next John Stockton (minus the shooting and defense, apparently). Well, everywhere else Sergio has played, he's been handed a starting role and promptly lost it to less heralded players. He didn't even last a season in SAC. By the trade deadline he was 3rd on the depth chart racking up DNP-CDs on one of the worst teams in the league. They traded him to one of the other worst teams in the league - the Knicks, where he was once again handed the starting PG role, which he promptly lost to Tony Douglas. This year after 6 years playing in Europe, and supposedly developing a jump shot, he came back the NBA as the starting PG on one of the worst teams in the league - and promptly lost his starting job to T.J. McConnell and is once again heading back to Europe where he belongs. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    I'm not ready to call Crabbe the SG equivalent to Sergo, because Crabbe does have one valuable skill that is in high demand in "today's NBA". So, that will keep him in the league. But, I don't think he'll ever be a starter on a > .500 team.

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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    Yes, he would have loved if someone stepped up and took some pressure off CJ in the second unit but does not mean doing it how CJ does. It means scoring how Stotts wants his players to score according to their 'roles.' (That's four, can I get that Yahtzee!)

    I think people need to stop using that as a fact for 'winning an argument or their point' as why a player doesn't play a certain way and that automatically meaning they can't or don't have the ability. Show me an actual quote from Stotts where he says he would love all his players to be isolating their defender and taking them off the dribble to score like Dame and CJ do every game?

    I'll save you the time, you won't find one.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Yes, I'm sure Stotts told Crabbe "You better not do shit in games, be super passive and only shoot wide open 3s, or else I'm gonna kick your ass !"
    Jesus man how delusional can one person be
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    It's not about isolation, it's about being able to attack close-outs with your dribble (an important skill for any shooter). If Crabbe had the ability to put the ball on the floor and dart past a defender rushing out at him, if he had the ability to create opportunities for teammates with passes, if he had the ability to launch threes off the dribble--I'm relatively sure Stotts would have used those skills as much as possible, because all of those things fit in well with the type of offense Stotts was running and all of those things would have been very welcome when reserve-heavy lineups were dying on the court offensively.

    It's not literally impossible that any or all of those skills exist within Crabbe and they'll be displayed in Brooklyn, but it's very unlikely that, if he had any or all of them, they would never have been displayed consistently, especially when the Blazers badly needed someone who could create a little offense in the absence of Lillard and/or McCollum.
     
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  15. RipCityDSCPL

    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    You don't think that had anything to do with Stott's being uncomfortable with the unknown? Stotts knew what kind of players Wes and Batum were and knew how they would help the team win BEFORE he became the head coach of the Blazers. That was not the case for Crabbe as a rookie or a second year player.

    As for CJ, McCollum was the Blazer's own first round pick while Crabbe was a traded for second round pick. Who's the one who is going to get the benefit of the doubt first? The first round pick or the second round pick acquired via trade?
     
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    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    You don't need to be a sensationalist.
     
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    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    I'm not seeing the difference between what I said to what you did. In order to accomplish what you want Crabbe or any other player you want to use in the example they must do it in a one on one fashion, ie isolation play.
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Oh come one. Seriously???? Crabbe isn't some unseasoned, unknown rookie. He played here for four seasons and over 5000 minutes of laying time. He was 3rd on the team in total minutes played last season and 4th the year before. He had plenty of opportunities to show his full offensive repertoire. If he could have done more, we would have at least seen a glimpse of it. Do you honestly think Stotts told him your role is to stand still and shoot, don't even think about doing anything else - EVER?

    The one who is more talented and can do more than 1 thing with a basketball.

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  19. RipCityDSCPL

    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    @riverman's post was talking about Crabbe when Batum and Wes were on the team, which was during Allen's rookie and second years. Not about Crabbe this or last season.

    Read the post first before replying to a replier.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Irrelevant. Two years and 4300 minutes of playing time later, he is STILL the same passive 1-dimensional player he's always been.

    BNM
     

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