Politics Civil War part 2! Which side will you fight for?

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  1. riverman

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    or if in fact he is ineffectual to begin with which has left us...as you say....screwed
     
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    No. The correction comes in four years.
     
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    What if the charges aren't superfluous or frivolous? Is investigation okay then?
     
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    Name the charge and show the harm. Like if you want murder, show the body. Theft? Of what?
     
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    I'm sure the charge will be named if he's actually ever put on trial (impeached).
     
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    hahaha
     
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    Looks like way up in 2016 to me.

    Up 6000 points in 2016, less than a year.

    Up 2000 points from 2014 to 2016.

    Nice graph.
     
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    yup fuk Obama's last year as president, or his administrations previous 7 years effect on the profits those companies made in 2016. none of that would have happened except for trump. GREEN FONT
     
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    2000 points in his last two years vs 6000 points since January. Numbers don't matter. GREEN FONT.
     
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    6000 points based on profits from when?
     
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    This year. We're already in Q3.

    People/companies do have to be confident that it's OK to spend.
     
  14. Natebishop3

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    That's AMAZING! So the fact that the stock market has been on the rise for years doesn't matter at all? Trump changed the market THE DAY he took office! He's like some kind of wizard!
     
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    PERFECT RESPONSE.
     
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    Trump did change the market the day he took office. From 1000 points a year to 6000 points in less than a year indicates something changed.

    Enthusiasm, fewer regulations, promise of lower taxes, consumer confidence, etc. They all factor in.

    All this growth is occurring in spite of Fed interest rate hikes and the threat that selling off some of Obama's hidden debt (Quantitative Easing), that Obama didn't have to deal with.
     
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    So...... bullshit? You could have just said "bullshit" and it would have covered all manner of those things. And that should be very concerning to you because none of that has come to fruition, so eventually that "consumer confidence" will dissipate, and then what happens?
     
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    How do you explain the clear and significant increase, coinciding with Trump taking office?

    Obama did nothing to cause that.
     
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    From a source that is out to destroy Trump from the day he took office. What's even funnier is some of that 2000 points through 2016, CNN credits to Trump by simply getting elected.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/28/investing/trump-rally-wall-street-100-days/index.html

    Trump rally is 2nd best since JFK

    The Trump rally has come in three waves. It was kicked off soon after the election with exuberance over the Trump agenda. It was dealt a blow by political reality, and has since matured into cautious optimism.

    All in all, the stock market performance through President Trump's 100th day in office on Saturday looks impressive. That's especially true given Trump's historically-low poll numbers and nonexistent legislative achievements, at least so far.

    The S&P 500 has rallied 11.6% between Trump's election victory and Friday, the final day before the 100-day mark. That's the second-best performance for that period, since an 18% surge under President Kennedy in 1961, according to CFRA Research. The S&P 500 soared 12.3% through the same point under President George H. W. Bush in 1989.

    "Wall Street has awarded President Trump an A for 'anticipation,'" Sam Stovall, CFRA's chief investment strategist, wrote in a report.

    Anticipation of a pro-growth policy -- massive tax cuts, infrastructure spending and deregulation -- fired Wall Street up immediately after the election.

    So much so that most of the Trump rally actually took place long before he ever took power. Roughly 53% of the S&P 500's total post-election rally happened by December 13, according to an analysis of FactSet data.
     
  20. Natebishop3

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    It took a major dip around the election, and then it corrected back to the line that it had been steadily taking since 2009. Go look at that 10 year graph. The current market is right in line with the steady rise that we have been seeing over the past 8-9 years.
     
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