Politics White Nationalist Rally turns to violence and terrorism

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if all those "both siderisms" think Allied troops were "just like" Nazi soldiers?

    The people were killed by one side.

    I have spoken, loudly against the assholes who call themselves anarchist and break windows like children having tantrums, as though windows were our enemy.
    But breaking windows still did not kill anyone.

    There are NOT good people on both sides. Good people are not Nazis and Klansmen/women. Good people may be confused about racial issues but good people do NOT travel to Virginia to participate in a racist rally wanting to bring back a combination of Southern segregation and European Nazism with 21st century technology.

    Any so called good people in a racist movement, the only way to show you are good people is to get the hell out.

    We can debate a lot of things. Does affirmative action help reduce racial inequality in higher education? What is the impact of immigration on native born workers? Where does one person's religious freedom and and another's civil rights begin?

    But my existence is not up for debate. I am a Jewish lesbian and this march was people who want me in gas chambers. That the so called president can call CNN the enemy of the people but not Nazis tells us, once again, what a weak and ignorant person he is, with no moral compass and no convictions.
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    But why are marathon runners equivalent to statue removers? Where is the political motive?
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You proving the stopped clock thing is true, over and over again.

    What utter nonsense you post.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I make no such analogy. These fellows planned their attack well ahead of time, travelled to meet with terrorist organizations, targeted innocent people and they absolutely had political motive (all the political motive of ISIS).

    The key word is in your question: "RANDOM"
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    McMaster calls Charlottesville attack terror
     
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    Come on Denny, stop spewing Monday morning right wing talking points and spend a little time looking into what happened and why it happened.

    The Right to be White rally was for Saturday. They had a legal permit, police were ready, businesses put up signs that they would be closed ( which the protest organizers quickly identified as jewish run businesses who were being racist against them so they were identified and their windows smashed, but we get to this in a little bit.)

    Anyway, so this was suppose to be a giant Save the Poor Statue because we white people are victims rally on Saturday.

    Instead these dipshits do an illegal march with torches on to the University of Virginia campus on Friday night. Spewing anti jewish rhetoric (because many local businesses were closed), chanting Nazi BS of Blood and Soil, throwing Nazi salutes, some dressed in KKK, some dressed as Nazis, and all completely illegal and not was what was told to the city of Charlottesville as to what would be occurring.

    So these fucktards are doing illegal marches, provoking, insulting, spreading hate.

    And according to you the citizens of Charlottesville should have just stayed in their homes and allowed this racist bullshit to happen in their city?

    According to you these poor racist dipshits are just victims and none of this would have happened if it weren't for the left?

    Sorry, I'm not buying it.

    You're free to hide in your house and allow this to happen but don't blame people for saying, no, not in my city.
     
  7. riverman

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    Well said
     
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  8. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Holy fuck!!!

    Think he did this knowing what would happen so he could sue? (Not saying he'd win but he can file)

    It is so ridiculous that I am having a hard time understanding how it could be real.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Merck CEO resigns from presidential council over Trump remarks

    An African-American CEO of a major pharmaceutical company has resigned from a presidential council in a direct response to President Trump's remarks about "many sides" being to blame for violence over the weekend in Charlottesville, Va.

    Merck chairman and CEO Kenneth Frazier said he was leaving Trump's American Manufacturing Council, arguing U.S. leaders must "clearly reject expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy."

    "Our country's strength stems from its diversity and the contributions made by men and women of different faiths, races, sexual orientations and political beliefs," Frazier said in a statement that did not mention Trump by name.

    "America's leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy, which run counter to the American ideal that all people are created equal," he continued.

    "As CEO of Merck, and as a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism."

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...om-american-manufacturing-council-after-trump
     
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    Trump responds.

     
  11. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    You ever watch Howard Stern's smallest dick contest?

    3 inches would look like John Holmes to the contestants.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Uhhhhh, burn.
     
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    In no way am I condoning anything these fucktards (your word) did.

    But we cannot allow civil liberties to be ignored because we don't like their speech or methods. You would open the door for government to label drug dealers and civil rights protesters or anarchist demonstrators to be labeled terrorists and the harsh treatment that follows.

    According to me, there were two sides throwing punches. That can be seen in the many videos shown on TV and on YouTube.

    Go ahead and punch a neo nazi if it makes you feel good. I don't think punching anyone is the right approach.
     
  14. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Didn't anyone see the story where the terrorist in the Challenger is supposed to be a schizophrenic?

    Label him whatever you want, tell me he is mentally ill. Just put him down.
     
  15. SlyPokerDog

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    I'm not ignoring or saying anyone's civil liberties should be taken away. The racist fucktards had a legal permit for a rally on Saturday afternoon.

    They held an illegal torch march on Friday evening and then were illegally marching around the city saying hateful shit on Saturday morning. Because of those actions their permit for Saturday afternoon was revoked. They ignored that and attempted to have their rally anyways.

    This is 100% on them.
     
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    There were similar illegal marches in D.C. the day Trump was sworn in, and the days after. So what?

    I'm not particularly a fan of regulating free speech and assembly with permits in the first place.

    Calling road rage a terrorist act is taking away the fucktard's civil rights. We have more appropriate laws regarding hate crimes that actually fit what happened, and carry the severest of penalties. That's what is being applied and rightly so. The fucktard should get the chair (or whatever) for MURDER.

    You can go back through this thread and count the number of times I've called these vile people just that - vile.

    WE are allowing someone's civil liberties to be taken away if we allow government to loosely apply the terrorist label to whoever they want to "get." Precedent.
     
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    A. A permit to protest is just idiotic.
    B. If they broke the law prior to their "permitted"protest arrest them.

    I don't see how one can argue that they should have their permit pulled. Keep the permit in place, if they are in jail while it is active who cares?

    They're all moronic shitbirds. If we don't let them demonstrate their idiocy without trampling on their rights you give them something to be defensive about.
     
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    Agree, I don't see how a permit should be needed unless you block a street like a parade.
     
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    Even so. The civil rights movement would have gone nowhere if government were allowed to label them terrorists for breaking the law while trying to effect government policy.

    Those acts of civil disobedience absolutely fit Nik's chosen definition. I say be REALLY careful because the precedent has future consequences.
     
  20. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I thought about that but nowadays people will protest a small business for political reasons.

    If you block the street my business is on daily because the bakery next door won't make cakes for someone I'm gonna be pissed.
     

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