Politics White Nationalist Rally turns to violence and terrorism

No one's rights were taken away. Any of those people are allowed to stand in front of that statue and protest its removal.

What was asked for and what was originally granted was to have an organized rally/event.

That includes setting up a stage, public address system, speakers, etc.

It also includes coordination with local law enforcement and city officials for protection of those holding the public rally/event.

1,500 people suddenly showing up with stages, electrical equipment and porta potties isn't something that is allowed or safe for the participants or the law enforcement officers sent their to protect them.

A protest and a large organized event are not the same things.

Since the participants of the organized event were not following the conditions of their permit the permit was revoked. Their right to protest was not taken away from them.

 

The first amendment is strangely silent about stages and electrical equipment and porta potties, though it isn't about the right to assemble and to free speech.

When you have government choosing who can assemble and who can have free speech, we all lose.

The whole point of civil disobedience is to break the law, even go to jail for it, and to bring about political action. There's no point in requiring a permit.

A hundred years after the civil war, the government was using fire hoses on black protesters (or not even protesters) in the streets. The protesters weren't following the rules of some permit. So, yeah, no, I don't want the government to have THE say.

 

The whole point is for people to be pissed.

 

You are free to make up all the "Save the Civil War white statues" signs and march around the city you live in. You are free to have as many friends as you want join you. But if you want to have a large rally on public property you must follow the rules of that city required to hold an event. This includes events that are not politically related. Concerts in the park, marathons, fundraisers, etc. There are rules for large events. This is done for liability of the city and the safety for the participants and citizens of that city.

This was a large event. There are rules and regulations for having a large event.

 

The president just condemned the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists.

Finally.

 

The Constitution doesn't say you can't drive cars into crowds of people.

If George Washington had a car he would have driven it into the British.

- Denny Crane

 

Aren't you?

 

He's done it repeatedly.

Condemning bias and hate is condemning them all.

If he names just 3 groups, there's going to be a 4th posting on their stormfront site about how Trump didn't single them out.

SMH

 

Another idiotic post, strawman argument.

 

We have laws against murder and vehicular homicide, and all that. I'm open to his action being politically motivated, but unless we have some admission of guilt, you cannot prove it's anything but road rage.

Again, the hate crime laws (as dubious as mind reading is), do cover this crime and that is the route being pursued. And rightly so. The guy deserves the death penalty, and that will (or won't be, but he did the crime, he gets the penalty) how you dissuade these racist assholes from driving their cars into crowds of people.

 

Considering the shit storm that the right had about how Obama didn't call them "Islamic terrorists", I find it funny to hear any conservative (or someone claiming they're not one, but really are) now all the sudden be OK with someone taking their time using an already historically accurate designated name.

 

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017...le-reporter-face-just-car-crashed-protesters/

 

So calling them racist bigots is somehow not calling them what they are?