OK guys I was just wondering who you do you guys think got the better part of this deal? The Golden State Warriors or Indiana Pacers?The Pacers sent away Al harringtonStephon JacksonJosh Powell and SarunasThe Warriors sent awayKeithyMike DunleavyTroy MurphyIke DioguJust wondering
I honestly think the Pacers got the best of it. I think Dunleavy and Murphy play with more energy and effort than Harrington and Jackson do. They also are better rebounders.
OK they might give a little more energy(if they even do) they suck and everyone the SWarriors got is better
I think the deal was pretty even. Dunlevy and Murphy bring more rebounds and effort, while Jackson and Harrington bring more offense
I dont know guys....I think the Warriors got the best of that deal. The question you have to ask yourself is did this really help the Pacers? Look at the record before and after the trade. Did it really make a difference or make it worse. See, the Warriors IMO seem like a much tougher and more talented team when healthy especially because of this trade. Al Harrington is a guy that can put up 20 points on any given night , who has athletisism, can shoot the three, good rebounder. Stephan Jackson is a decent guard. Regardless of his personal life the guy is a good player.
I think the Warriors got the better end. They definitely got the best player in the deal in Al Harrington..he's been a monster for them. Stephen Jackson too has played very well. I think the change in scenery and new fast pace style of basketball the Warriors run has benefited both of these guys a ton. Now the Pacers on the other hand I havn't really seen much improvement in from this trade...Dunleavy and Murphy are solid guys, but not much more. Ike Diogu is a nice young player, but who knows what type of player he'll develop into. Curently they're also in the middle of an 11 game losing streak, so yeah thus far the Warriors are looking like the winners in this one to me.
From what I have seen I think the Warriors got the better deal because Jackson is finally playing like he should. He's scoring well, playing good defense, passing the ball effectively, he's been playing great for Golden St. Then again, I really haven't seen too much of Indiana...but I think the Warriors got the best deal.
Well, Jackson is better at EVERY SINGLE FACET OF THE GAME than DunleavyAnd Harrington is better at EVERY SINGLE FACET OF the GAME but rebounding than MurphyAnd the pacers have lot 11 in a row while the warriors are in the playoffs
I think the trade did help the Pacers a little more than their record shows. But looking at the season, the Warriors definitely got the better players to fit their style and help them get the 8th spot in the West.
Who the f*ck is this Go Warriors guy? I've never even seen him or heard of him before.I think the deal was pretty even. The Pacers get rid of headaches and find some players who can compliment our team instead of having to get their egos in the way (plus we got rid of Jackson - YAY!!!!). We also got Ike Diogu who in a few years could make this the worst trade in Golden State history. The Warriors get some talent out of Al - and they've improved to a .400 record (which makes them happy since they are one of the worst franchises in sports history and being above .400 is a miracle).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and they've improved to a .400 record (which makes them happy since they are one of the worst franchises in sports history and being above .400 is a miracle).</div> That's actually pretty funny.
[quote name='Pacers fan forever' date='Mar 16 2007, 12:48 PM' post='310167']Who the f*ck is this Go Warriors guy? I've never even seen him or heard of him before.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Mar 15 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly think the Pacers got the best of it. I think Dunleavy and Murphy play with more energy and effort than Harrington and Jackson do. They also are better rebounders.</div>Did you just say that Dun and Murphy put in more effort than Jax and Al? My god. Next thing I'll hear is that George Bush is a good president. Jesus, Dunleavy would put horrible effort every night and his missed jumpers and horrible defense would kill any momentum we would get during the course of the game. The only real positive aspects Dun could bring to the Warriors were him drawing charges. If you ever wonder why Dunleavy got booed as a Warrior so often was his lack of effort and energy and the look on his face that he didn't give a sh*t whay happened game in and game out.As for Murphy, he is the softest big man I have ever seen play in my entire life. Put Murphy in the post, and the most he can do is pass the ball out to one of your wing players. Ask him to box out a player and you'll get a Bush in the headlights look, ask him to challenge a shot, and he'll leave the lane more open than Paris Hilton's legs when she is drunk. The only reason Murphy is known as a good rebounder is because for all his career until this year he played next to Adonal Foyle who is about as fast as the original Ford cars and has feet for hands. Put him next to a good rebounder (Biedrins, Dampier) his rebounding numbers go down. Al's rebounding is equal to Murphy's because Al actually fights for each rebound, and even though he may not end up with the board, he fights down their, unlike Murphy, who'd only go after rebounds with no one around. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Who the f*ck is this Go Warriors guy? I've never even seen him or heard of him before.I think the deal was pretty even. The Pacers get rid of headaches and find some players who can compliment our team instead of having to get their egos in the way (plus we got rid of Jackson - YAY!!!!). We also got Ike Diogu who in a few years could make this the worst trade in Golden State history. The Warriors get some talent out of Al - and they've improved to a .400 record (which makes them happy since they are one of the worst franchises in sports history and being above .400 is a miracle).</div>Ike's a nice player, but no way he could make this the worst trade in Warrior history. At this point Ike is a good scorer, but he can't pass out of a double team, and is really only an average rebounder. His defensive skills are average and he is only a good shotblocker at this point. Ike could develop into a nice 16/8 player someday, but I'd say Ike is a project with some skills still needed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Mar 16 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Did you just say that Dun and Murphy put in more effort than Jax and Al? My god. Next thing I'll hear is that George Bush is a good president. Jesus, Dunleavy would put horrible effort every night and his missed jumpers and horrible defense would kill any momentum we would get during the course of the game. The only real positive aspects Dun could bring to the Warriors were him drawing charges. If you ever wonder why Dunleavy got booed as a Warrior so often was his lack of effort and energy and the look on his face that he didn't give a sh*t whay happened game in and game out.As for Murphy, he is the softest big man I have ever seen play in my entire life. Put Murphy in the post, and the most he can do is pass the ball out to one of your wing players. Ask him to box out a player and you'll get a Bush in the headlights look, ask him to challenge a shot, and he'll leave the lane more open than Paris Hilton's legs when she is drunk. The only reason Murphy is known as a good rebounder is because for all his career until this year he played next to Adonal Foyle who is about as fast as the original Ford cars and has feet for hands. Put him next to a good rebounder (Biedrins, Dampier) his rebounding numbers go down. Al's rebounding is equal to Murphy's because Al actually fights for each rebound, and even though he may not end up with the board, he fights down their, unlike Murphy, who'd only go after rebounds with no one around. Ike's a nice player, but no way he could make this the worst trade in Warrior history. At this point Ike is a good scorer, but he can't pass out of a double team, and is really only an average rebounder. His defensive skills are average and he is only a good shotblocker at this point. Ike could develop into a nice 16/8 player someday, but I'd say Ike is a project with some skills still needed.</div>Cool, we both got rid of the players we hate and love the players we got. Even deal!
