OT Was Robert E. Lee really all that evil?

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Of course Lucy was evil. Didn't you see how many times Charlie Brown landed on his back?

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    Charlie Brown was such a dummy.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    We should tear down his statue.

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Thank goodness.

    Though you would if you could.
     
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    Just convert it to an HCP statue. Almost done.
     
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    No, this is the type of thing that I'm fine with letting mayors and governors decide for themselves. It's only when local action rises to the level of taking away people's rights, like slavery or voter suppression, that I think outside influence is warranted.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You keep using my so-called definition of terrorism in a completely spurious and disingenuous way. Again I'll restate what I said: the politically motivated slaying committed by the driver against a mass of people seems to fit the Merriam-Webster definition of terrorism. Feel free to tag me in the future if you're going to continue to misrepresent my words.
     
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    I didn't misrepresent your words.

    Your definition included violence and intimidation with the goal of effecting public policy.

    Violence? Check. Just watch the videos of left and right thrown punches, police killed trying to keep the peace.
    Intimidation? Check. Mayor of Baltimore so intimidated the statues removed in the middle of the night, without public discussion.
    Effected public policy? Check. Statues removed.

    All the check boxes.

    The will of the people is resoundingly to keep the statues. What's going on isn't the will of the people, but the will of "terrorists."
     
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    What you jacking your self up about?
     
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    I'm only catching up here but me personally I'm indifferent. But I am a white male.

    Here is one reason I would think local communities might want to remove statues of those who sought oppression of minoritues during thier tenure of respective position.

    A reminder.

    Minorities might see it as a reminder and though it may not provoke anger and hatred in all, it might bring sadness of memories of the historical suffering they, their families and loved ones might have had to endure.
    If the removal of the statue helps these individuals live a happier and more peaceful life, then let them vote to have them removed.
     
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    Seems reasonable.

    But.... why now? Why only in places run by Democrats? What was the recent catalyst?
     
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    W.E.B DuBois, on Robert E. Lee:
     
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    If Lee was a Union General the war would have been short. I don't advocate removal of any civil war soldiers' statue. These men were honored for standing up for beliefs that changed our US history. Why does this become a hot shit subject when 150 years has already passed by? Its political corrosiveness BS.
     
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    Who knows. WHy did we invent the wheel when we did? why not sooner or later? Why did it take until the 60's for us to recognize legally the equality of both sexes and all races?

    When the lightbulb turns on, it turns on. Don't question the light, just get as much done to improve your surroundings while you can see, before it goes off, right?
     
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    I can tell you every time I see one of these pickups driving around VANCOUVER WASHINGTON with a confederate flag mounted in the back, it changes my emotional condition on the spot. I'm not arguing for outlawing it, but I disagree with your assessment of the affect it has on me.
     
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    Uhhhh, I'd be entirely more pissed that they are likely to "roll coal" or whatever it is they call it. Should lose their license for a year.
     
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    I hope it isn't too difficult.
     
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    When you look closely, you may see the switch has a operator.
     
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    Guessing you're not black.
     
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