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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Because it's a deflection, and we don't like deflections, do we?

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    barfo, Aug 24, 2017
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    You just don't have a clue. White people have invented this term.

    It's.

    Just.

    Crime.
     
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    Because you're not addressing it--you yourself admitted you have no suggestions, nothing to say about it besides it existing. Saying, "Yeah, but Chicago!" isn't discussion, it's just an attempt to change the subject.
     
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    Lol
     
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    Ohhhh okay thanks for blacksplaining to me
     
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    No I just deflected your whitesplaining black on black crime to me...
     
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    He's deflecting and doesn't even know it.
     
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    Nobody else will even admit the existence of it here.ts hilarious and crazy at the same time. This happens every time this topic comes up on the forum, this place is so damn left, you can't address it without being racist. I have a great idea though, let's talk about trump in every thread as well as that one kkk rally. You guys could address those things all day even though they have been beat to death, I find it ironic. Yet 9 people die this past weekend, or 7, whatever it was and you guys are like hmmmm yeah sure whatever. Lol
     
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    Stop blacksplaining whitesplaining to me
     
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    Personal attacks when you're wrong?

    The fact that you bring up black on black crime when someone brings up racism or police violence or charlottesville only shows that that is your go to deflection.

    A construct, made up by white people, to be used for the exact reason you just used it.

    Deflection.

    Then I'm called ignorant.
     
    dviss1, Aug 24, 2017
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    I'm offended you told me I'm whitesplaining. Somebody help. Pls. I'm being harassed
     
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    Just know, and you even admitted it above, that you don't have the answer to "black on black crime" because you still haven't figured out what to do about white on white crime.

    And since you DON'T have the answer, there's no way to show us how to fix the problem. And even if you did have the answer, you aren't willing to tell us.

    You are however, willing to tell us what we should focus on instead of:

    White supremecy
    White privilege
    KKK and Nazi violence
    Police brutality
    or anything else that's caused by white people.

    Because these things are small problems that are figments of our imagination.
     
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    Wanted to cut out some of the chaff and isolate the wheat, because I think this part of your post really succinctly identifies the basis for the miscommunication.

    The basics of the BLM movement--as I've come to understand it--is to highlight the way the police (by the black community's persception) seems to view black people and their lives as less valuable than those of white lives.

    The critical connection to Chicago (and other BoB crime) is to say, "If you really want to tell us how 'Black Lives Matter', shouldn't you be more focused on where most black lives are lost?"

    The BLM side sees this as an intentional deflection of attention away from what they see as power-based injustice, and says that the quantity of deaths attributable to one source or the other isn't the issue.

    Can I offer up a couple of (potentially misguided, but reasonable to me) analogies that might help illustrate this?
    • Let's say you own a hardware store. The economy in the area takes a hit, and you have a bad quarter. Lost about $50,000 overall. Last day of the quarter, someone came in and stole a $1,000 tool, but you caught them. Do you say, "Big deal, I've lost $50K this quarter, this $1,000 theft is nothing in comparison"? No--you prosecute the thief, and separately try to address the cause of the loss.
    • Let's say you're on a football team. Every day in practice, offense and defense are fighting with one another. DB's and WR's one day. OL and DL the next. Day after day. Then gameday comes around, and one of the opposition's linebackers takes a cheap shot at your quarterback. Do you say, "We fight with each other so much, that opponent's cheap shot is no big deal"? No--your whole team bum rushes the offender, because intra-squad skirmishes are much, much more acceptable than any outsider disrespecting one of your own.
    When we hear the black community complaining about police violence on black people, and rather than commiserating with their concerns, we try to minimize or dismiss them by pointing to another issue which we feel should be of greater concern to them, we're basically telling them that we know better than they do what they should be focused on, and it is going to naturally come off as incredibly condescending. Thinking about it that way, I can't blame @dviss1--or any other black person--for being offended by being told to pay attention to black-on-black crime.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Again, you're not addressing it. Saying, "Jeez, guys, what about black-on-black crime?" isn't addressing anything, nor is it discussing it. It's just an attempt to change the subject to how black people should focus on themselves and stop talking about police brutality or white supremacist marches.

    If you actually had something worthwhile to say on the subject, perhaps there could be a discussion, but you've said yourself that you don't. You just know Chicago's a pretty bad scene and there are black and Mexican neighborhoods that scare you.
     
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    I never said that. I think it's been covered numerous times on here that all those things are bad. However you can't even admit black on black crime is bad. Interesting
     
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    Yeah you didn't have to type all that out for me, I'm not retarded. Blm claims their movement is because of police in America. Well maybe they shouldn't of chose the name "black lives matter" if they don't wanna address all the young black men being killed by other young black men. And while I agree cases like philando, Eric garner, Freddie gray should of been protested. They still stand firm on one of the sketchiest cases out there which would be Michael brown. But hey let's just protest and come up witch catchy phrases and say all cops are evil. Sure.
     
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    So if they picked a different name, you'd be less irritated by the BLM movement?
     
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    All houses matter. When one is on fire, do we put water on the houses that aren't ablaze?
     
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    But I bet you think Blue lives matter. :dunno:
     
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