Politics Trump pardons Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Your logic is unknowable at any level.

    You are back peddling and agreeing with me, because I'm right.

    Good for you.
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    So you could ban every non white person in this forum and as long as you don't say that you did it because they are inferior to whites it's not racist?

    You could walk down the street and only spit on black people as long as you don't say they are inferior to you it's not racist?

    If you would like to discuss this in a different thread I would be more than happy to.

    Not trolling. I've been trying to discuss with you how your claims about Arpaio decisions as sheriff are racial but not racist.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    How far back in this thread do I need to go to see why you posted this strange thought?
     
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    Not far at all.
     
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    That strange thought is simply Denny's logic.

    Of course, now he'll complain that you insulted him.
     
  7. MarAzul

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    Oh it is not a sign of weakness, to apologizes for an insult not intended.
     
  8. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    So, following B...... Every cop that has ever been more careful pulling over a black guy in a 64 on hydraulics is a racist no matter what they say?
     
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    The action is racist, if they wouldn't be equally careful pulling over a white guy in a 64 on hydraulics. It doesn't require knowing whether the cop believes whites are superior to blacks to label it so.
     
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    Ahh, the action is racist.

    So a cop who believes in racial equality can't believe that a stereotypical gang banger exists and he or she needs to be more careful around someone who fits that description?

    A black cop who is more afraid of the black dude in a 64 is ...

    Racist?
    Tricked by the media?
    Dumb?


    If he is more afraid but doesn't do anything differently than if he pulls over my grandmother in her Taurus does that make people happy?

    Is that where we are now. Everyone is the same no matter what outward signals we project?
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    If a cop pulls over a white guy with AR15 bumper stickers on his truck he should just stroll on up casually as if there is nothing out of the ordinary about this person?
     
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    I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here. I've never said that no context should be used in terms of how wary or careful a cop is. But if, given the same situation and context other than skin color, you take a different action because you perceive someone of one skin color to be more dangerous to someone of another skin color, I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that that action is racist.

    You seemed to consider quite meaningful my saying that the action is racist as opposed to going straight into "the cop is racist," but that is an important distinction. You can do something dumb without necessarily being a dumb person. You can do something clumsy without necessarily being a clumsy person. While an action may be racist, I don't think that instantly means the person should be a labeled a racist. Just as there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "smart" to "dumb," there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "generally not racist" to "generally racist." Who one deems to be generally racist is a judgment call based on all their statements and actions (that one is aware of).
     
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    So sheriff Arpaio isn't racist?
     
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    I think he is. It certainly seems like he has a long, long history of discriminating against people solely due to the color of their skin. It's not like he had a single isolated incident of prejudice or something.
     
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    According to the left yes, this is racist even if it's in an area that is statistically crime ridden. Makes no sense but hey everybody has different definitions of racism I guess
     
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    If I see a white dude with fuckin full body tats and looks gnarly, I'm staying away.mif I see a black dude, pants hanging looks a certain way. I'm staying away. Looks like I'm racist towards everybody!
     
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    That's why I say it's a lifestyle/ cultural stance. Not a racial stance.
     
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    For whatever reason these days people don't understand the difference. Or they don't want to. A bad neighborhood is a bad neighborhood whether the people that make it up are black, white, Hispanic. Shits not racist just because I don't wanna be anywhere around people in those areas but according to the social experts it's racist.

    It's common sense.
     
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    Common sense of us racists. Duh.

    You should get to know the white guy with tattoos on his face. Especially tear drops around the eyes. It shows he is super sensitive.
     
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    How many incidents does it take?

    Is that like a Tootsie roll lollipop?
     

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