<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Mar 16 2007, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>actually...we all saw Wade do it last year in game 5 of the NBA Finals....if you meant Wade couldnt take over a game single-handedly</div>I wouldn't call that performance single-handedly...you know where I'm going with this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Mar 16 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe will not get MVP okayit's a fact he won't unless the lakers go on a great run towards the end of the season in which I doubt they will do that extremly well, winning players and teams are more likley to get awards eg. dirk, nash, duncan. sorry kobe .. just wait till you get a better supporting cast.</div>That doesn't make sense to me. MVP is the player that is most valuable to his team. Right now Kobe is the most valuable team as well as Dirk but Dirk has the better supporting cast, bench, and just a better team around him. Kobe on the other hand is on his own, especially with all these injuries. Kobe's play is alot more valuable to his team as he has a worse supporting cast not to mention the fact that without Kobe who knows where the Lakers would be with all the injuries...on a 16 game losing streak? Remember, Kobe is pretty much the reason the first losing streak ending when the Lakers played Boston. I am not saying Kobe will get MVP, I'm just saying that Kobe is probably the most valuable to his team. Just look at what he did tonight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 17 2007, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That doesn't make sense to me. MVP is the player that is most valuable to his team. Right now Kobe is the most valuable team as well as Dirk but Dirk has the better supporting cast, bench, and just a better team around him. Kobe on the other hand is on his own, especially with all these injuries. Kobe's play is alot more valuable to his team as he has a worse supporting cast not to mention the fact that without Kobe who knows where the Lakers would be with all the injuries...on a 16 game losing streak? Remember, Kobe is pretty much the reason the first losing streak ending when the Lakers played Boston. I am not saying Kobe will get MVP, I'm just saying that Kobe is probably the most valuable to his team.</div>Ethier way, he's not going to win MVP this time round in my opinion though id be very happy if he did.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Mar 17 2007, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>65 LOLThe blazers just got kobe'd.That was EASILY his best Clutch preformance very.</div>What? His clutchest performance had to be when he scored 81 points.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AiRuPtHeRe? @ Mar 17 2007, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? His clutchest performance had to be when he scored 81 points.</div>Did you watch the game last night? Last night was his most clutch performance IMO. He made incredible threes with guys hanging all over him to get the Lakers the win. If you get a chance to watch the 4th quarter and overtime of that game...do so. His 81 point game was his best but his 65 points was his most clutch.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Mar 17 2007, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe will not get MVP okayit's a fact he won't unless the lakers go on a great run towards the end of the season in which I doubt they will do that extremly well, winning players and teams are more likley to get awards eg. dirk, nash, duncan. sorry kobe .. just wait till you get a better supporting cast.</div>I agree. The most valuable thing is winning. Kobe's team isn't winning right now so to me Dirk or Nash are the MVP. As much as Kobe can take over a game he can also shoot them out of a game. Great performance yesterday but not enough to win MVP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 17 2007, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree. The most valuable thing is winning. Kobe's team isn't winning right now so to me Dirk or Nash are the MVP. As much as Kobe can take over a game he can also shoot them out of a game. Great performance yesterday but not enough to win MVP.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 17 2007, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That doesn't make sense to me. MVP is the player that is most valuable to his team. Right now Kobe is the most valuable team as well as Dirk but Dirk has the better supporting cast, bench, and just a better team around him. Kobe on the other hand is on his own, especially with all these injuries. Kobe's play is alot more valuable to his team as he has a worse supporting cast not to mention the fact that without Kobe who knows where the Lakers would be with all the injuries...on a 16 game losing streak? Remember, Kobe is pretty much the reason the first losing streak ending when the Lakers played Boston. I am not saying Kobe will get MVP, I'm just saying that Kobe is probably the most valuable to his team. Just look at what he did tonight.</div>
Sorry man Kobe is not the MVP. Kobe doesn't make his teammates better. The only way Kobe knows how to dominate is 1 on 5 rather than 5 on 5. If he knew how to do it the Lakers record would be much better and they wouldn't lose 7 in a row. Pathetic.
^Its really hard to say who is more valuable to his team...Sure, without Kobe, they would be a terrible team....we all know that. But if you take away Dirk from the Mavs, they arent going to be a BAD team, but they arent near the team that they are right now. Without the presence of either of these players on their team, their is obviously going to be a substantial drop off. It is so hard to judge who is more valuable to their team because supporting cast comes in to play...I want to see Kobe get it this year, because if he doesn't get it this year, when the hell is he going to get it? Kobe scored 35+ a game last year which was amazing...Nobody had scored that much in a season in a long time. People cut him down because they thought he was playing selfishly, SO, he decides to be more of a team player this year, and they were winning for a while. Then, injuries hit them so they went downhill for a bit. Dirk and the Mavs are having a great season, nobody is denying that, but Kobe deserves an MVP sooner or later.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 17 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry man Kobe is not the MVP. Kobe doesn't make his teammates better. The only way Kobe knows how to dominate is 1 on 5 rather than 5 on 5. If he knew how to do it the Lakers record would be much better and they wouldn't lose 7 in a row. Pathetic.</div>What a joke of a statement. Kobe doesn't make his teammattes better? Have you watched him play this entire season? Look at his game agaisnt the Mavs earlier this year...I know you watched it. Kobe took his team to overtime and made brilliant passes to Brown and Radmonovic under the basket to lead his team past the Mavericks. When the Lakers have played the Spurs, Kobe has been very unselfish and made great passes. Kobe makes his teammattes better, but what is alot better about him than Dirk, is that when is teammattes arent playing well, he can single handedly take over games. Dirk cant do that to the degree that Kobe can. Its that simple..Why dont you go take away 3 starters from your team and see how they do....Lamar was out, Brown (who was the starter before he got injured) was out, and Luke who is very helpful to that team was out. What is pathetic is how you are criticizing Kobe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 17 2007, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry man Kobe is not the MVP. Kobe doesn't make his teammates better. The only way Kobe knows how to dominate is 1 on 5 rather than 5 on 5. If he knew how to do it the Lakers record would be much better and they wouldn't lose 7 in a row. Pathetic.</div>Did just completely ignore my post? I said Kobe will most likely not get MVP but I think he deserves it. How the hell do you expect Kobe to make his teammates better when they are always hurt?! Everytime the Lakers start to firgure it out a huge injury comes along. Dirk has a better team around him unlike Kobe who is on his own. You are basically calling Kobe selfish for his performance last night by saying he only knows how to player 1 on 5 than 5 on 5...as if he has a choice. If you had even watched the game you would know that if it weren't for Kobe the Blazers would have blown the Lakers out. Kobe was superman last night making impossible threes and doing everything for his team to win. If Kobe is not the most valuable guy to his team, I don't know what being valuable is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 17 2007, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What a joke of a statement. Kobe doesn't make his teammattes better? Have you watched him play this entire season? Look at his game agaisnt the Mavs earlier this year...I know you watched it. Kobe took his team to overtime and made brilliant passes to Brown and Radmonovic under the basket to lead his team past the Mavericks. When the Lakers have played the Spurs, Kobe has been very unselfish and made great passes. Kobe makes his teammattes better, but what is alot better about him than Dirk, is that when is teammattes arent playing well, he can single handedly take over games. Dirk cant do that to the degree that Kobe can. Its that simple..Why dont you go take away 3 starters from your team and see how they do....Lamar was out, Brown (who was the starter before he got injured) was out, and Luke who is very helpful to that team was out. What is pathetic is how you are criticizing Kobe.</div>Thank You.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 17 2007, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Its really hard to say who is more valuable to his team...Sure, without Kobe, they would be a terrible team....we all know that. But if you take away Dirk from the Mavs, they arent going to be a BAD team, but they arent near the team that they are right now. Without the presence of either of these players on their team, their is obviously going to be a substantial drop off. It is so hard to judge who is more valuable to their team because supporting cast comes in to play...I want to see Kobe get it this year, because if he doesn't get it this year, when the hell is he going to get it? Kobe scored 35+ a game last year which was amazing...Nobody had scored that much in a season in a long time. People cut him down because they thought he was playing selfishly, SO, he decides to be more of a team player this year, and they were winning for a while. Then, injuries hit them so they went downhill for a bit. Dirk and the Mavs are having a great season, nobody is denying that, but Kobe deserves an MVP sooner or later.</div>Players on bad teams usually don't win it and I don't think he does deserve it over Nash and Nowitzki. He's playing a bit better than them right now, but not enough to take away the MVP from 2 guys who's teams are far ahead than most of the NBA right now. Nowitzki is very important to his team, Nash is a bit more valuable because the Suns don't have anyone that can do what he does or even run the offense at all, but Nowitzki should get it since he's leading his team to the best record and having a great season. This award isn't just about individual accomplishments or scoring titles. It's about helping your team win and while Kobe is a clutch player, how many MVP's have their been that have been below a 5 seed, and if they continue like this they will be a 7th or 8th seed.If Kobe doesn't get it this year, he will get it when his team starts playing well. The Lakers have just been BAD in the last month or so. If Kobe can ever get his team to a 4th seed then he should get it. He'll have another chance next year and the year after.
lol. thats funny. 65 pts against the BLAZERS and they only win by 5.maybe another reason why the lakers suck.
And Kobe may have a worse supporting cast, but I'd bet the Suns and Mavs would both drop just as far as the Lakers without their #1 guys. About 6-7 spots in the rankings.
At the response that the Lakers would be horrible without Kobe. Well they aren't so good with Kobe right now. You really can't use that argument with teams that aren't that close in the standings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 17 2007, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>At the response that the Lakers would be horrible without Kobe. Well they aren't so good with Kobe right now. You really can't use that argument with teams that aren't that close in the standings.</div>They are not THAT bad right now. They are in the playoffs. Without Kobe they would be even worse indeed. They would not be in the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (P0W3RBALLIN @ Mar 17 2007, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol. thats funny. 65 pts against the BLAZERS and they only win by 5.maybe another reason why the lakers suck.</div>Maybe another reason why Kobe is so great. The Lakers would have gotten blown out without Kobe. It's sad, I know. :no1:
