Pat Connaughton

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what kind of players do you think Pat got his numbers against? We were either up 20 or down 20 with under 3 minutes to play.
     
  2. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Are the coaches really that cruel? Having Pat "play" "PG" is like having a fish ride a bicycle.
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You never really know if something is possible until you give it a shot.

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  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It saves time in practice vs. guys who don't know the system mucking things up. The coaches can focus on improving other players rather that trying to teach some 3rd stringer the playbook.

    Plus, injuries happen. Its nice to have someone who knows the playbook that can fill in for a game, or two, without fucking things up.

    You seem really pissed off by this. In your opinion what did this cost us? We still have another open roster spot we can use to sign another min contract player. So, it's not like Neil spent his final roster spot to keep Pat.

    The GM, owner and coach thought he was worth keeping around for another year on a min contract. They see how well he does in practice and how much he is improving (or not). If they thought he was a lost cause, he'd be gone. This isn't a half way house to wayward baseball players. What exactly is your beef here? What do you know that they don't?

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  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Not sure if cruel is the right word. Remember when Mo Cheeks thought Qyntel Woods would be a great back up PG? Yeah, let's put the guy with the BBIQ of a 2x4 in charge of running our offense.

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    I guess that didn't include this one:

     
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    Prove it.
    Actually, don't. I don't care enough to argue about Pat, or with someone who has cemented their opinion of a 3rd string player.
    He passed my eye test - better dribbler, passer, shooter, and higher BBIQ than Aminu.
     
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    Pat isn't that bad, not sure what the hubbub is about here. The bottom line is that we still need more depth at SG and he can provide it, cheaply, while being a good locker room guy. Declining the option at this point makes little sense.
     
  9. Rastapopoulos

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    Hardly. Slightly bemused more like. If I was one of the hundreds of prospects hanging around the fringes of the NBA who never get "their shot" - THEN I'd be pissed.
     
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    I like Patty baseball he looked like a nice little role player at the end of the year last year. He seems like a player who really benefits from having the structure of an offense around him. Summer league is just basically glorified pick up which is not his strength. I think he can be a productive guard off the bench, he wont play 28min a game like crabbe but I think he can average 7-8 ppg on catch and shoot opportunities. That's all we will really ask of him. I dont get why rasta is so mad about this.
     
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    This is what the phrase "damning with faint praise" was invented for.
     
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    Yes, you're right--I actually confused his shooting numbers with those of Layman's.
     
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    And yet Aminu is so much more valuable, in part because he's BY FAR the Blazers' best and most versatile defender.
     
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    I guess a broken clock is right two times a year.

    (Waiting for you to find his third best game.)
     
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    Look, I've nothing against Pat. I actually gave him some minor praise late last season when it looked like he was kind of helping the team while on the floor for short stretches. For sure, if he has a value, it's as a glue guy who helps the team play smoothly (which I guess is what you could mean by "knowing the system"). That's the kind of player that's valuable on a contending team. Your James Jones type.

    We're not a contending team. Other teams have exciting young prospects who could really turn into something (think of the Spurs with Dejounte Murray, for example). We have a guy who will obviously never be more than a spot-minutes guy because he has the game of a stretch-4 in the body of a combo guard.
     
  16. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Option three: He becomes an adequate rotation player. Option four: He continues to be bench and practice fodder. In any case, I don't see a down side.

    :cheers:
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Awe, come on my man. You know they played him at point guard. Of course the team did better when they quit that stupidity.

    :cheers:
     
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    You're asking a lot for a guy who barely got any PT last season. Look, I'm not saying that he's an All-Star in waiting. I do think that if you look at his clips you can see that he's got a bunch of NBA-level skills that indicate that he has room to improve. He can shoot the ball well. He's athletic. He has some nice assists in those clips. He has good court awareness. This is the last year on his contract so it's not a long-term commitment. He should see more PT this season with Crabbe gone. He either shows that he's worth a new contract or he's gone.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    In theory, if a GM is a great talent evaluator, and not factoring in market forces (e.g. another team bidding up the price), the $4.5M player should be the better of the two.

    Put it another way: which would you rather have to spend on a player if you were GM: $1.5M or $4.5M?
     

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