Is Olshey playing it too safe?

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Draft experts out there, we got Nurk and a first round draft pick for Plum? Did we use that pick this draft? Did it end up being Swannigan?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No--it was the pick we packaged with our own pick to move up to get Collins.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Thank you sir.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    All I'm saying is let's see him play a full season and be healthy in the playoffs. You know the history of Blazers big centers.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    This.

    That many moves reeks of desperation, not superior management.

    :cheers:
     
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    Could be that, or maybe the chili he had at lunch is just making it's presence known.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    NO has made MAX offers to the prominent FAs and they refuse to come here. I don't know what else he (or anyone else) can do.

    He rebuilt us on the fly. We had three 1sts this year.

    Big trades? We've been mentioned as involved in the deal for Melo, even getting Melo.

    I don't think it's about pulling the trigger.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Just wish we could have landed SOMETHING in exchange for LA.
     
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    Yeah, Tex shafted the Blazers pretty well with that whole, "I want to stay and be the best Blazer ever", bullshit.
     
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    Just seems like every time a big name FA bounces, lately the team gets compensated some way.
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    LMA was a UFA. Nobody owed the Blazers anything for signing him.

    Maybe NO could have traded LMA a year earlier. But the team trading for him would be taking on a player who was certain to bolt as a UFA.

    As well, NO did try to get LMA to stay. I'd say he went all out to do so.
     
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    Were HAyward and Millsap UFA? Just seems like these players almost were working with their old clubs on their way out. Or LeBron when he left Miami? Just hate not getting anything in return.
     
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    The only reason the signing team would turn a UFA signing into a S&T is to get the player more money and/or more years. The old team can offer more years and bigger raises.

    http://heathoops.com/2014/04/the-co...-draft-picks-becoming-clearer-for-miami-heat/

    Both players were eligible for maximum salaries of $16.6 million in the first year of any new contract signed, whether it was with their prior teams, with the Heat, or with anyone else. But while the starting salary was to be the same no matter where they signed, the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement gives the home team a financial advantage when it comes to re-signing its own players. Both players’ home teams were eligible to offer their respective player one more year (six instead of five) and bigger annual raises (10.5% instead of 8%). That translated to a maximum potential offer of $125.5 million over six years, versus the $96.1 million over five years that the Heat could offer.

    James and Bosh utilized the structure not to make the increased money, but rather to mitigate the impact of taking less. They leveraged the sign-and-trade structure to take a reduced starting salary of $14.5 million – $2.1 million less than the maximum – in order to accommodate the contracts of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. (Wade, too, did the same).

    Each structured the longer six year deal with the higher 10.5% maximum raises, but with the lower starting salary. The contracts paid out $109.8 million over the six years, roughly $15.5 million less than they otherwise could have made had they accepted full max deals.

    The sign-and-trade structure, however, came at a cost for Miami.
     
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    After two years and hundreds if not thousands of posts on the subject, I have to believe you're just trolling to be snarky. Either that or you are a bigger nerd/geek than the folks on this site who actually haven't let go of the whole LMA drama. And I'm the idiot who rose to the bait.......
     
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    Didn't you want to keep him? LA said he wanted to stay. He lied. End of story. We need to stop blaming NO for that fuckin turncoat.
     
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    Playing devil's advocate because I am not overly joyed with Olshey, but in the last 3 years, Boston has won a grand total of 5 more regular season games than Portland. This is also in a MUCH weaker conference.
     
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    They are injury cursed...especially when it comes to pitchers....then batters catching fastballs in the face doesn't help...I like their lineup better now than in the recent past
     
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    I needed that!
     
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    we got younger...that's about it...
     
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