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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Oh no... why... why did you have to post that? Now we're going to get a Dennyramble why a digital bass drum synth thingy is better than an analog bass drum synth thingy.
     
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    Hells nah, analog is rad. No lag whatsoever haha.
     
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    If analog was rad Apple would make an analog computer.

    - Denny Crane
     
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    Meh, I kinda hate using the computer live, I'm all about analog drum machines and analog synths with acoustic instruments and looping. I have a boss rc300. Twisting knobs. Yeah I know.

    For sequencing it's all about the computer though.
     
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    Sorry, I read it wrong.
    Midi always confuses me.
    hmmm, im about to settle down and tinker some more. Ill see what I can get going via midi, but I had issues just getting PT12 to recognize the XA when trying to create a midi track. It only recognized as an instrument track.
     
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    So how would one transfer via Ethernet with these devices though?

    Met him a couple times. I think you saw the vid of him on drums? I think I posted that right?

    Nah, you just install them via USB and an app. ALmost all digital stuff is like that now.





    Yep.

    Me too. I just want to play music. The more digital sequencing ans laptop requirements, can lead to more troubleshooting and delays due to malfunctioning equipment.
    I'm not sure of all the options, but after some research and advice, the items I have should be fairly laptop free.

    Maybe it comes down to getting a second trigger pad for me on stage, so I don't have to try to route the one the drummer will be using to the XA at all.
    Then everything is going to the PA as analog signals ( via DI boxes). Or maybe is just trying to create a like sound within the XA that is close enough to the sound I want to upload into the trigger pad for me to try to trigger with the XA.

    There should be road maps for this shit. lol.
     
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    yeah....I'm way out of the loop when it comes to this stuff now....I only know for something to sound the way I want it to....I need a really expensive microphone......I've used old SM58 ir SM 57s for all my home recordings.not really studio mikes...in the studios I've worked in the microphones were like baseball bats....you could record tapping on a beer can and it would come through a mix...engineering is an art I've never mastered...never gotten a real bass to record the way I want it to sound in most of my demos....Marcus Miller or Paul McCartney sounding..
     
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    He plays piano and guitar as well...dude knows music....
     
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    There is some really funky stuff going on when recording bass.
    Case in point. I have many musicians over for jams that play my equipment, aside from my band.
    One time we had two different bass players show up and both had their own basses. I record the bass direct via the xlr out in the back of the AMPeg VST. no levels or settings where changed.
    Both bass players sounded great live in the room while jamming as far as I remember and thought that night.
    However the recordings are completely different. One is much thinner and notes die out quicker. The other is much fuller, fulling the whole spectrum up and notes last forever.

    The only thing I could think of is that they had much different pickup sounds, so the raw sound going to the recorder was much different, but the live sound differences were minimalized by going through the compression and EQ, making them both sound good live.

    Its a lifetime of Lernt as Bigwhiney bitch would say. lol.
     
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    yeah, I saw it...always wanted to meet Homer....we've got a lot in common. I'd enjoy a tour of your studio one day OB....you've got some cool gear bro
     
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    I'm guessing here but pretty sure MarAzul has built one and uses it on his boat.
     
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    Anytime you are in Ptown just hit me up. Its really coming together now, and the band is back up and rockin again too, so the room is going to become very active this winter and moving forward.
    Im so over working on improving it and want to start recording ideas. im flooding worse than Houston with ideas.
     
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    I think often kick drums cancel out bass frequencies and basses cancel out vocal tracks sometimes...
     
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    Kick and Bass do have alot of crossover, but what kills vocals in my recordings, or what I need to be aware of is the Cymbal crossover. Also crosses over the guitar.

    If the bass guitar and the kick drum are mixed and eq'ed well, the bass guitar should be a full droning thug that shakes everything, where the kick drum should have a bit more high end punch to it. not much though or you will start to fight with the snare.
    There are pros that know this shit mathematically.
    all about frequencies and decibels. I call these people Gods.
     
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    Here's a list of MIDI notes versus notes on your keyboard. http://computermusicresource.com/midikeys.html

    Set up the SX pads to recognize a note you can play, and I think it's as easy as setting the SX to receive and to play the note on your XA.
     
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    Thanks BC. :)
    IM gonna read that now.
    and you know, anytime, you are also welcome to come over and do some things. Not sure what all you have to work with, but you are welcome anytime.
    And nice to see you back on here more. Hope the family is well. :)
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI#Alternative_hardware_transports

    Alternative hardware transports

    USB/FireWire
    XLR
    mLan
    Ethernet
    Wireless
    3.5mm audio jack

    Bluetooth or WiFi seem like the obvious ways to connect these things. My fitbit one tracker runs days on battery and has bluetooth built in. The thing is the size of about 1/2 one of my fingers.

    Ethernet the obvious choice for wired.

    You don't have to change the actual protocol - the transport itself could be replaced.

    Something like this company's products work with existing midi ports.

    http://www.cinaratech.com/info/productsmenu/midigateway

     
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    Im making headway, but Denny!!!

    Seriously. Did you check out my equipment I posted links of ,or did you just suggest random ideas on how to improv the speed? lol. Half of what you listed is not an option in this format.
     

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