Whos the 4th best team in the league?

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  1. Marvinmartian

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    ^Almost Nobody is overlooking them...it'd be a mistake too.
     
  2. ballerman2112

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 19 2007, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They started to click WATCH the games before you talk. They are not below .500 not .500 either they are 2 games over .500 get's your facts straight atleast before talking.Rockets have great D 3 point shooters, and a big guy inside a go to like Shaq for a exmaple a big force like that with T-Mac.Jazz has a deep nice team.Denver if they keep clicking like the last few games I also have no problem putting them above DET even though it only been a few games since they started clicking.</div>O wow...my bad. They are two games over 500...Who even cares? You are saying they are the 4th best team in the league and they are 4 games over 500. Yeah. and as for the Rockets, they dont have Yao as of right now, and you dont know how good he will be after he returns.....And if they dont have it come playoff time, they arent going to be that great. Yeah, Jazz are a very deep team with experienced players, and a great starting lineup...And you feel Denver is better than them! And then there is Denver. They have clicked for 3 games and you have them as the 4th best team? What makes you think they arent just on a quick streak and that they will lose their next 3 games. They arent 4th best unless they prove themselves over a long period of time. And even if they do, I still feel Detroit and Utah are better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Mar 20 2007, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, I'll just say this - people are ranking the top 3 with Dallas/Phoenix and San Antonio at #3 with no problem. In my opinion, everyone is overlooking San Antonio to a high degree. I feel that San Antonio has just as good a chance to win it all as Dallas or Phoenix. Don't overlook them.</div>I agree that San Antonio has as good of a chance to win it all, because they are my pick to win it all this year. But as of right now, you have to put them as the third best team in the league behind Dallas and Phoenix. During this regular season, San Antonio has given alot more reason to view them as beatable in the playoffs, compared to Dallas and Phoenix who has easily played the best ball of any teams in the league. That's why everyone is saying Dallas, Phoenix and the San Antonio.
     
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    I personally think San Antonio is at least arguably the second best team. They have lost to a lot of crappy teams, but Phoenix has done poorly against the best teams, which is not a good thing.
     
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    Houston is the 4th best team. At least until Miami gets healthy.
     
  6. Something-To-Say

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    Rankings:1. Phoenix2. Dallas3. SA4. Detroit5. Utah6. Houston7. Miami8. Denver
     
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    Houston still not getting a heap of love here, there better than 6 I know that though I can't completly back that up unless houston keeps winning, which I really expect them to do so.
     
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    Yeah I don't understand why so many people are picking Utah over Houston. Yao Ming is starting to dominate again and they didn't have him for a long time. Houston might even end up with homecourt in the first round the way they are playing now.
     
  9. SteveNash4MVP

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    Without a doubt, its Detriot.They play great Defense and with Webber they arent bad with the ball.
     
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    Haha, Detroit is not better than Denver? I'm just not even going to comment on that. Anyways, to the question I think Phoenix and Dallas are right now the best teams in the league. Detroit and San Antonio come right after, I don't know which one to put first because Detroit has been so damn inconsistent but when they can get it together when they have to and that's why I'm not sure who I'd put at the #3 but since San Antonio did march into the Palace and just kill Detroit I'll put them at 3 and Detroit at 4. I watch every Piston's game and like I said they're so inconsistent, you don't know how they'll come out and play on any night. They could play great like they did last friday against Phoenix and then turn around come home and lose to the Hawks or someone at home, that's just the way this team is. Come playoffs time I think they'll be the 3rd best team in the league, they'll be taking things much more seriously and won't have it as tough as San Antonio will. Houston and Utah are both very good teams but Houston is the better team if you ask me. Houston has been hurt all year, most of the year without Yao and had T-mac out a few games also and still is up there with the top teams record wise. None of the teams with 40+ wins or so have had the type of injuries Houston has and if they can get home court advantage that 1st round I see them beating Houston and taking Dallas to 7 in the second round. Utah isn't overrated because they have played great all season but I think they're running out of gas a little bit. Lakers and Nuggets are good but inconsistent, I'd put Cleveland up there with them 3 as well. Oh, and about the Billups thing going to Denver is most likely not going to happen so don't get your hopes up high sergey. First, a team with Billups, AI, and Melo just wouldn't work, all 3 guys need the ball and it just wouldn't fit. Plus, the only way I could see Denver getting Chauncey if it was a sign and trade and I don't see that happening either. Next year Denver will be a good team but not the best team in the league, probably won't even be the 4th best in the conference.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 21 2007, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rankings:1. Dallas2. Phoenix3. SA4. Detroit5. Utah6. LA Lakers7. Houston8. Cleveland</div>Fixed.
     
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    ^Lakers above Houston and Cleveland? I think that is pretty biased. Houston has played great in Yao's absense, and now that they have him back, they are even better. The Lakers were hit with injury, and they went on like an 8 game skid, and Yao was out for a long time, and Houston didn't drop in the rankings. You cant put them above Houston right now...And as for Cleveland, before there last loss, they were the hottest team in the NBA. They had won 8 games in a row, and they were just playing really good ball. I think that if both teams are fully healthy, and they met in the playoffs (even though that is very unlikely considering the circumstances), it would be a good series, but you cant put the Lakers above them right now. Earlier on in the season, thats fine, but not now.
     
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    Yeah the lakers don't even deserve to be on that list after 7 losses in a row. Not even top 10.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 21 2007, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah the lakers don't even deserve to be on that list after 7 losses in a row. Not even top 10.</div>Yeah, I agree with you.
     
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    I based that off of how they going to perform in the playoffs.With Kobe and the way he's playing... anything can happen.
     
  16. Serge

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    [quote name='Marvinmartian' post='313473' date='Mar 20 2007, 08:47 AM']The Nuggs, may make it to the second teir of NBA teams next year...but they won't make it to the top tier.Right now you have Dallas, PHX, and SA as the top tier teams.With Utah, Detroit, Cleavland, and maybe even Houston...Then come the Nuggs and Lakers I'd think.The Nuggets might make it to the second tier next year, but no farther than that...[/quote]HAHA Denver right now is in the second teir of NBA teams dude wake up. Next year they be right there with Dallas, and Suns I am telling yall.Cavs, DET, and LA are not even close to Denver. Utah, and Rockets also are worse then the Nuggets I think.[quote name='MoNeY_MiKe__' post='313485' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:01 AM']Well since serge said the Nuggets, I might as well say the Kings are. [​IMG] But for real it's probably the Pistons. Just about every team in the East do not wan't to have to play them in Round One. They have like the 3rd or 4th best road record in the league at 23-10 or something. Their home record sucks but an impressive road record like that can make it for it, since of course "you can't win in the playoffs without winning on the road". Since records don't really matter that's another reason to say the Pistons. Four of their 5 starters have plenty of experience together and even won a title together and knows what it takes to win. Chris Webber too has been in the playoffs plenty of times, though he didn't win anything. He knows how to prepare for the playoffs at least.The Jazz have been playing great this season and good for them but come playoff time they don't have the playoff experience as majority of the teams out West will have. Sure they have Jerry Sloan coaching them but a coach can make all the adjustments in the world but if the playoffs don't make plays then it won't matter.[/quote]MM no offense, but your a idiot I clearly have a point in Denver keep watching.[quote name='ballerman2112' post='313946' date='Mar 20 2007, 08:46 PM']O wow...my bad. They are two games over 500...Who even cares? You are saying they are the 4th best team in the league and they are 4 games over 500. Yeah. and as for the Rockets, they dont have Yao as of right now, and you dont know how good he will be after he returns.....And if they dont have it come playoff time, they arent going to be that great. Yeah, Jazz are a very deep team with experienced players, and a great starting lineup...And you feel Denver is better than them! And then there is Denver. They have clicked for 3 games and you have them as the 4th best team? What makes you think they arent just on a quick streak and that they will lose their next 3 games. They arent 4th best unless they prove themselves over a long period of time. And even if they do, I still feel Detroit and Utah are better.[/quote]They had Yao back what happened he got another injury? Yes Jazz are deep, but also I feel are overrated.You people all ready all put Denver to rest they need time to gel it take a full year for them to really gel gel. They are the 4th best team deff better then Cavs, Lakers, DET, and also Utah and Rockets I think.[quote name='DTP' post='314160' date='Mar 21 2007, 03:16 PM']Haha, Detroit is not better than Denver? I'm just not even going to comment on that. Anyways, to the question I think Phoenix and Dallas are right now the best teams in the league. Detroit and San Antonio come right after, I don't know which one to put first because Detroit has been so damn inconsistent but when they can get it together when they have to and that's why I'm not sure who I'd put at the #3 but since San Antonio did march into the Palace and just kill Detroit I'll put them at 3 and Detroit at 4. I watch every Piston's game and like I said they're so inconsistent, you don't know how they'll come out and play on any night. They could play great like they did last friday against Phoenix and then turn around come home and lose to the Hawks or someone at home, that's just the way this team is. Come playoffs time I think they'll be the 3rd best team in the league, they'll be taking things much more seriously and won't have it as tough as San Antonio will. Houston and Utah are both very good teams but Houston is the better team if you ask me. Houston has been hurt all year, most of the year without Yao and had T-mac out a few games also and still is up there with the top teams record wise. None of the teams with 40+ wins or so have had the type of injuries Houston has and if they can get home court advantage that 1st round I see them beating Houston and taking Dallas to 7 in the second round. Utah isn't overrated because they have played great all season but I think they're running out of gas a little bit. Lakers and Nuggets are good but inconsistent, I'd put Cleveland up there with them 3 as well. Oh, and about the Billups thing going to Denver is most likely not going to happen so don't get your hopes up high sergey. First, a team with Billups, AI, and Melo just wouldn't work, all 3 guys need the ball and it just wouldn't fit. Plus, the only way I could see Denver getting Chauncey if it was a sign and trade and I don't see that happening either. Next year Denver will be a good team but not the best team in the league, probably won't even be the 4th best in the conference.[/quote]No DET is not better then Denver. Spurs are not even close to DET they are WAY better. Cavs, and Lakers are not close to Denver.A team with Billups, AI, and Melo would work Billups be there with his good D, and assists split Melo/AI's shot be a GREAT 3rd threat. Denver will be the 3rd best team next year behind Dallas, and then Suns I think.[quote name='Marvinmartian' post='315277' date='Mar 22 2007, 11:26 PM']Me wake up? How bout you do that first.There is NO way Denver is even in the second tier this year.Utah, Houston, and Miami(with ade and Shaq) are the second tier.Denver is on the level with Cleaveland and Chicago...and the Lakers, IMO.[/quote]I never said there the first tier this season, but 2nd Yeah they are.And next season they won't be 2nd tier anymore they will be right there with Dallas, and the Suns.Denver is better then all those teams. Even though Rockets are good with Yao/T-Mac also.HAHA Denver is WAY ABOVE Cavs, Bulls, Lakers you keep swallowing the bs you feed your self you all will see.I be telling you all I told you so next year.
     
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    Haha, I'm an idiot for saying Detroit is better than Denver? Ok, so I guess the other 20-30 people who said Detroit too are idiots? The Cavaliers are better than the Nuggets, the Lakers and Nuggets are on the same level about now.Man, what's next? Probably going to say Carmelo is better than Kobe. I think you've proven to just about everyone on here that you lack basic basketball knowledge. :dribble: I heard hockey is looking for fans, they're desperate so I'm sure they'll take some retard like you. Haha, Denver better than Detroit...that's a good one.
     
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    Who really cares!Lets be realists for a second. Barring major upsets;The west will go down between the big 3 along with some scares from Utah, LA, and maybe Houston.The east should go down to ROUND III - HEAT VS. PISTONS.Cavs are not good enought to beat a Miami (50% Wade) or Pistons. Pistons are rolling right now. Miami is also streaking (winning 10 out of 11) without Wade by playing some of the best defense right now. With a Wade, anything can happen. Cavs will take 2 games from one of these teams, but thats about it.For the sake of this argument, its the Pistons, based of what they have done all year and recently.
     
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    Detroit>>>Denver
     
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    Let's put it like this, who has a better chance of winning a championship Denver or Detroit? Yeah, I thought so. And Denver ain't getting Chauncey, and it would not work anyways trust me. And what has Denver done this season? Besides the win against last week I haven't really seen any impressive wins from them. I know Detroit has beaten Miami, Dallas, Cleveland, Phoenix, Lakers, and Denver all on the road.
     

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