OT Active Shooters in Vegas

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  1. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Wow. How scary!
     
  2. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    Boy, those 2nd amendment rights sure make me feel safer...
     
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  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    They try to take responsibility for everything. Its the dealiest mass shooting in US history. Of course they want to take responsibility. This had nothing to do with Isis It was some wealthy old white dude.
     
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  4. BrianFromWA

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    ^^BTW, I post that partially because a suppresor would've (for an automatic weapon of, say, .308 caliber), still maintained a ballistic "crack" of roughly 130dB. True, it wouldn't have come from the exact direction of the shooter (due to phase shift and other physics stuff not worth getting into here), so if you were doing counter-fire detection you would likely be off, but to Mrs. Secretary's point, if the shooter had had a "silencer", the crowd would still have heard the fire of gunshots in rapid-fire fashion at ~130dB (sound of a jackhammer, or louder than a Seahawks game at full roar)...which one would submit would cause the crowd to run anyway.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    It probably wouldn't have helped here, as from everything I've read the shooter was high up outside the venue, but 2nd Amendment rights usually go away when you go to a concert or nightclub or something. I don't know that anyone inside that amphitheater had the legal right to a weapon.
     
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  6. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Sounds like the cops got to him sooner because the fire alarm went off in his room.

    Fucking fuck
     
  7. Chris Craig

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    He killed himself before they could get to him.
     
  8. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I know but I'm sure it is highly likely he waited until they arrived.
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    We can thank our corrupt government for yet another mass shooting. If these fucks weren't taking money from corporations and billionaires to do their bidding and cut taxes to the rich, states would have the money to better deal with mental health in this country. We would also have better gun laws, but you can't even get a sensible gun bill past these corrupt fucks in congress.

    To every cocksucker opposed to better gun laws... go fuck yourself... From me.
     
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    I was in Vegas just a few weeks ago. Damn.
     
  11. SlyPokerDog

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    Damn, you should shelter in place.
     
  12. e_blazer

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    I wonder what changes in hotel security will result from this incident. Getting 10 rifles up to a 34th floor room seems like something that should be able to be stopped with reasonable security measures. Metal detectors coming at all major hotels?
     
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    And they say there's no reasonable discourse on this topic.
     
  14. SlyPokerDog

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    It would be impossible. Too many entrances in and out of the casino.
     
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    Not that many elevators. When we stayed at the Aria last year, we had to show our room key to security in order to get on an elevator to go up to our room. Wouldn't have been hard to have had some sort of metal detector at that point.
     
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    I can almost guarantee that there are a bunch of lawyers looking to take on some of the victims and/or their families as clients who will be thinking of ways that the Mandalay Bay should have been able to prevent this guy from getting that kind of armament up to his room.
     
  17. SlyPokerDog

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    Okay, so you have metal detectors, which 99% of the people will set off because of keys and smartphones. Then you have to have places where they and their luggage can be searched.
     
  18. THE HCP

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    I stay at Mandalay Bay a couple times a year for work. That hotel is massive, so many exits in and out. Trying to figure out how he got that many rifles up to his room unnoticed. A truck? Garment bags? If you ask for one of those gold luggage carts they will just give you one, had to of been how he did it. This is just horrible.
     
  19. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Doesn't seem hard to get the guns in. Nobody ever examines your luggage at a hotel, and you can bring as much as you like.

    barfo
     
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    I assume that metal detectors have sensitivity settings? Shouldn't be too hard to differentiate between a rifle and a set of keys.
     
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