That is a funny statement. I have actually seen a few who did stupid stuff, and injured themselves. One that stands out was a clown who decided to learn to fast draw. Another was notorious for never checking to see if his gun was loaded. Mind you, these are the type of people that I would not accept a ride from. Both of these guys were reprimanded. One was discharged, and the other busted and transferred. Just because there are a few inept fools, that could harm someone with an ice cream cone, is no reason to punish or cause harm to the rest of our population.
I think we're crazier than ever. Getting brainwashed by social media, drinking nasty contaminated tap water. Radio waves, Bluetooth, cell phones. Shit just gets weirder every day. Seriously, I know YouTube isn't proof but just watch the crazy shit people do. Road rage......just remembered one I saw yesterday........this is a new one to me... There's a thing called Slap Competitions. It is a thing. I think it is nuts (and kinda want to enter at the same time)
No, it is the combination of people and guns. Stupid people without guns are a lot less harmful than stupid people with guns. Duh.
Why is regulation punishment if it helps remove the bad apples from access to dangerous instruments of destruction? I refer you again to the 2nd amendment. The 3rd word in it is "regulated". If these are the people that you would not get a ride with - why would you be happy with them having easy access to guns with no restrictions?
ya know, I made an honest attempt to provide a little levity, and you want to deliberately be obtuse. A) We already have regulation. B) I as well as the service decided that in both cases, these people did not in fact deserve the position that they were in and were relieved. As far as their ability to own a firearm as civilians, they do have that right, just like they have the privilege, presumably, to own and operate a motor vehicle. That has nothing to do with me being "happy" allowing them to access either.
I'm just now hearing about this. Sorry for being so late. Very thankful to hear that Bodyman is okay. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved. That's right....blame the NRA for this shit, and be sure and bring up suppressors (NOT silencers....) to scare more people into your point of view. Jesus. It's no wonder you lost the election, you stupid cunt.
Not necessarily. Nevada, especially around the resort cities, have a lot of machine-gun rental (the guns CANNOT leave the premise, and are owned by the range) places, as well as a lot of shooting ranges that are aimed at enticing out-of-town folks and tourists who may or may not have necessarily ever shot a gun before. I can see the shooter passing himself off as an out-of-towner looking to try out the shooting ranges.
I mean... he's really far down.... next to the guy that put pickles on my burger, even though I asked him not to.
My assertion is that our regulation is not good enough. It takes a lot more to own and drive a car than it is to own and use a gun. That's what I am saying. See, there was better regulation about the fit of these people to operate whatever within the service - and they were found un-fit. All I am saying is that we need better regulation than the one we currently have - with periodic checks and the need to register guns periodically. Just like cars.
I would like to know how all of this was going to stop this shooter. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/at-least-59-killed-in-las-vegas-shooting-rampage-more-than-500-others-injured/ar-AAsM6kd?li=BBnbkly You cannot stop a quiet killer until they kill. It's a sad and unfortunate fact. I do agree that what we can do is expand mental health counseling and crisis centers in this country, as well as update and revamp the mental health system to a modern one. But even then, you can't force someone to seek counseling or therapy unless it is court-ordered. And there are strict laws and requirements in place for that to happen.
I do not know if it would have and it might not have - but I refer you to the study mentioned earlier in this thread about fire-arms violent deaths in the US compared to other high-income countries and suggest that I believe it would help to get us closer to other countries (good in this instance). I believe this was answered earlier in the thread. Sure. That's part of the solution. Another is making it harder for unstable people to get their hands on these kinds of weapons. I will repeat it once again because the argument seems to always be "it will not stop all of them" - the idea is reduce them. There is no silver bullet to stopping these things (pun unintended) - but putting our head in the sand and claiming that there is nothing to be done and some increased/better regulation is not worth it is, imho, a folly.
If we're being honest, I think it's way too easy to own and drive a car in the US. There are WAY too many morons on the road. It's a lot more difficult to get a license in some countries in Europe. With that said, I personally do not believe that owning a car is tantamount to preserving gun rights in this country.
We're not other countries, so this is irrelevant. And if you think the American people, some 160 million gun owners including myself, are going to tolerate a mass gun turn-in or confiscation, then you are out of your mind. Considering that there's over 3oo million guns in this country and 160 million gun owners, I'd say we're doing okay. Things like this are very unfortunate; I'm not trying to make light of them. But they are not the norm.
This. I can go down the street right now and buy some junker for $500 without a license. And even if I'm stopped, if I'm not suspended, then the worst I can get is a citation for no license/insurance/registration. Try taking a legally-owned pistol from one state to another without a permit, or a recognized permit, and find out what happens if you're caught. Here's a hint: it's not a citation. It's handcuffs.
I want to highlight the difference between car ownership/usage and gun ownership/usage. In Oregon, I'd say most people probably drive every single day. You go out, in public, and operate a huge piece of machinery that can kill people. Every day, you're putting yourself and others at risk. We require insurance, a license, and registration so that people can legally put themselves and others at risk almost every single day. Many people own a gun and never take it out. It sits in their closet, or in their dresser, and it never see the light of day. If they do take it out, they cannot legally transport it with rounds in the weapon unless they have a license. They have to exit the city limits to operate that weapon, or take it to a legally insured and licensed range. You cannot legally discharge your weapon in the city limits unless it is self defense or you're in one of those establishments. If you want to get a concealed handgun license, you have to go through a class, get finger printed, and carry a license. So as far as I can tell, aside from insurance (which many CHL users are starting to acquire), there isn't much difference between guns and cars. To further illustrate this point, someone can drive a car on their own property all they want without a license. Without insurance. Without registration. If it never leaves your property, it's completely legal to own and operate a vehicle without any of those things. We allow felons to own and operate cars. We do not allow felons to own guns.
I guess that this is one way of looking at it - there is no problem, nothing could be done to make things better, things will never change. We were not other countries when women did not have voting rights or racial equality did not exist - these things changed as well, because, let's face it - change is inevitable. Please read my answers above, I am not against gun ownership, I am not advocating confiscation - I am advocating better regulation that address real problems. Just because we are not other countries does not mean we should not strive to learn from them and be better where we need to be.
Then you better address handguns, not AR-15s. And if you think a handgun with an extended magazine can't cause just as much havoc as an AR-15, then just ask Jared Loughner. Nobody is saying that we should continue to put our heads in the sand. But...blaming guns for this is the equivalent of trying to fight a million-acre wildfire with a watering can. That effort can be put to better use improving our mental health system in this country.
