Dude you're so disingenuous with your trolling. And on top of it you aren't making sense NOR are you addressing the chart I gave you. I thought you understood those.
You know damn well I've never been for the republican plan put forth by Bob Dole. I've always been about single payer.
ObamaCare mandates people write checks to big corporations. Fact. You argue for it, I think giving tax payer money to corporations is not a good function of government. Trump just stopped direct payments to the corporations that they supposedly charged less in return for. Yet rates went up everywhere, every year, of ObamaCare so far. And by double digits. Your chart is meaningless. It doesn’t matter what we spend on health care. It’s our choice to spend that much, we lead the world in innovation, research, disease prevention, and even Ebola treatment. Other countries can pay less because they piggy back off our efforts. There has to be a point to a chart for it to mean anything in a discussion. Yours is an appeal to illogic.
ObamaCare mandates that taxpayers buy insurance, giving their hard earned money to a corporation, whether they want to or not. If they don’t, they get taxed by the IRS and the money still goes to the corporations. Republicans offered straight up single payer, the day McCain did his prima Donna move. No (or maybe a very small number) of democrats voted for it. Your guy Sanders didn’t vote for it, either. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ingle-payer-amendment/?utm_term=.807f756a94d3 Sanders won’t vote for Republican ‘single-payer’ amendment The Daines amendment, which the Montana senator has admitted he won’t actually vote for, will propose the text of a “Medicare for All” bill backed by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.). Sanders, who has delayed the release of his own single-payer bill until the end of the health-care debate — a decision that has pushed back his bill several times — was not quite the target of Daines’s amendment. Democrats saw it as a ploy to get some of the party’s more vulnerable senators to vote “against single payer,” angering the party’s base.
I'm going to need you to stop being so full of shit: Sanders: Dems won't vote on 'sham' single-payer amendment Senate Democrats are not going to play into Sen. Steve Daines's (R-Mont.) effort to divide the party on the issue of single-payer healthcare, a spokesman for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) told Vox Wednesday. "The Democratic caucus will not participate in the Republicans' sham process. No amendment will get a vote until we see the final legislation and know what bill we are amending,” Josh Miller-Lewis said in a text to Vox's Jeff Stein. “Once Republicans show us their final bill, Sen. Sanders looks forward to getting a vote on his amendment that makes clear the Senate believes that the United States must join every major country and guarantee health care as a right, not a privilege."
The FBI and the CIA overlap in function. So they could be combined. The DOD and the DOE overlap in function. So they could be combined. Etc etc. So combine all the agencies into one big agency. Great. You could call this combined agency "The federal government". Done and done. Happy now? barfo
QFT. More right wing bull. No actual realistic legislation. Just ploys to get them to vote against "single payer". You even fell for it.
Sham? It was DEMOCRAT Conyer's plan they offered. Sanders wouldn't vote for it because: 1) it wasn't HIS bill, and/or 2) out of spite.
You need to get your prejudice straight. You're so blinded by your prejudice you can't see the facts. First, it is the WaPost, as left wing a newspaper as there is. Second, it was Conyers' Bill. Conyers is a long time (e.g. the swamp) Democrat from Michigan. Republicans wanted to demonstrate that Democrats wouldn't vote for anything republicans brought up for a vote, including Conyers' single payer bill. https://www.healthcare-now.org/blog/conyers-reintroduces-national-single-payer-health-care-bill/ Conyers Reintroduces National Single-Payer Health Care Bill Today, Representative John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) reintroduced H.R. 676, “The Expanded And Improved Medicare For All Act.” This bill would establish a privately-delivered, publicly-financed universal health care system, where physicians and non-profit health care providers would be in charge of medical decisions — not insurance companies. H.R. 676 would expand and improve the highly popular Medicare program and provide universal access to care to all Americans. The program would be primarily funded by a modest payroll tax on employers and employees, a financial transaction tax, and higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans.
Is a Democrat a Democratic Socialist? Is a Democrat even liberal these days?? The bill was a piece of shit. You're also using your opinion and conjecture to determine why Sanders voted against it. Not facts.
Yeah but how many Christmas tree ornaments were on it? They always add amendments to these bills to make sure that they won't pass. Make sense. It's like you haven't been paying attention to politics for the past 20-30 years.
Why does it matter. You're just putting up a smoke screen. The plan proposed was single payer and sponsored by a democrat. Democrats wouldn't vote for it, out of spite. Even though the plan is what they propose.
It's like you aren't paying attention. I keep having to fill you in on the facts and you keep spouting stuff that isn't fact. There were no amendments to Conyers' bill. It was as he proposed it. Republicans put it forward to demonstrate Democrats were more interested in preserving Obama's legacy (and not voting for anything at all republicans bring to a vote) than in what they've proposed as the ultimate solution.
Disagreeing with you or not thinking you know what you're talking about right now doesn't make you right. You just said above that this was an amendment to the Republican bill. The Republicans have never shown their final bill and wanted Democrats to vote Yes on that Amendment without knowing what the entire bill looks like. "Once Republicans show us their final bill, Sen. Sanders looks forward to getting a vote on his amendment that makes clear the Senate believes that the United States must join every major country and guarantee health care as a right, not a privilege."
