Bogus! Nobel Prize-winner on Trump's tax plan: "Lies, Lies, Lies, Lies..."

$18T is almost how much debt Obama left us all to pay for.

It's also just about all the money from every dollar earned or product sold in the US in a year.

But it's all free.

 

NO.

 

It's not socialism.

1. VA care and benefits are earned by honorable services rendered via enlistment contract, not given. Socialist care is given to everyone in a geopolitical area.

2. Veterans have the choice to not use VA care. Socialists don’t.

3. The VA discriminates in the levels of care it gives. Care levels are decided by many factors including levels of disability, economic status, age, eras, and theaters of service. Socialist care is one and all.

4. The VA can send veterans to private care. In socialist care if they don’t provide it, you are out of luck.

5. The VA doesn’t manufacture its own drugs or medical equipment. Socialist care does.

6. Although rare, VA medical care can be revoked. Socialist care can’t refuse the most abusive user.

Although the VA has many of the negative aspects of Socialized care….(decisions made by bureaucrats not doctors, weeks and month long waits, chronic troublemakers slowing the system with frivolous care requests, years of appeals, little personal connection with doctors…) it’s not socialized care.

 

The wars don't come close to paying for all this "free" shit.

And I do mean "shit."

 

Expensive "care," without enough doctors, long waiting times, no better outcomes, rationing by government fiat, and squashing of innovation. I call it shit for good reason, because it is.

 

ObamaCare architect. Thinks people should die at 75, or effectively some policy that makes it so. Argues it's better for society to kill off people, "swiftly."

My neighbor is 75 and rides his bike 35 miles at a time, 4 days a week.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/

Why I Hope to Die at 75
An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamac...-simple-things-fix-health-insurance-problems/

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, chair of medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania and one of the architects of President Obama's Affordable Care Act, shares his solutions for higher-quality and lower-cost health care in his latest book, "Prescription for the Future" (PublicAffairs). In it he writes: "Although the next few years may be rocky, the American healthcare system will ultimately become better performing and more affordable in the long run."

Appearing on "CBS This Morning," Emanuel agreed there were unintended consequences of the Affordable Care Act that need to be fixed.

"We had problems that were in the bill that we couldn't solve before it got enacted," he said. "It's been around for seven years, so some of the problems have become obvious. Any corporation that would do a massive change like this would make constant adjustments. Because of the paralysis in Congress, we haven't been able to make the adjustments."
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You have to vote for the bill to see what's in it. That's how the Democrats roll.

 

Debunking the ObamaCare invented by Heritage Foundation bullshit:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/10/heritage_vs_obamacare.html

Regarding the Heritage Foundation as the originator of the Individual mandate, the comment is not classifiable as a 'Holderian lie', instead it is more of a 'Pappian' agenda-advancing deception.

In the parlance of today's ObamaCare discussions the "Mandate" refers to a legal obligation dictated by the federal government for all residents to purchase comprehensive health insurance covering routine, preventative, emergency, and mental health care and more.

The 'mandates' laid out by the Heritage Foundation were of an entirely different nature, as they focused on two areas: 1) Employer Mandate, requiring all large companies to provide healthcare coverage and 2) A Catastrophic Insurance Mandate, intended to protect the public from absorbing the costs for uncovered emergency care.

Routine health care was always regarded as an individual obligation.​

Not at all the same.

No gold/silver/bronze plans. It's not ObamaCare right there.

Here's the rub: if you repeat your bullshit enough times, it still won't be true.

 

Why should they support a program they don't believe in and that was rammed down everyone's throat without considering the republicans' point of view, engaging them in debate, or even recruiting their vote?

Democrats cause paralysis in congress today. That's how they roll.

 

It was not debated for months. Something else was.

Remember Obama saying "if you like your doctor..." ? That was something else that was debated.

What was passed was something Harry Reid wrote behind closed doors and passed via a parliamentary trick.

All told, from the Friday night, Dec. 18, when Nelson and Boxer agreed to abortion language, to the Thursday morning/Christmas Eve of final passage, there were about five days of consideration for the final bill in the Senate.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...re-through-the-senate/?utm_term=.42ac7509ccb3

Working secretly in his office, much like Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) merged the two committee bills and unveiled his own version of a health-care bill on Nov. 18 that was scored by the Congressional Budget Office.

In a bit of legislative maneuvering, Reid offered his text as an amendment to a completely different House bill — the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009. That’s because this bill had been sitting on the Senate Calendar of Business, avoiding the need for Reid to obtain unanimous consent to bring it up. This bill was also already obsolete — the issue had been taken care of in another bill — and so it was an ideal vehicle to start debate on the Senate floor. Reid inserted the text into the shell of the old bill.

On Nov. 21, a party-line vote allowed debate to begin on the health-care bill. But Reid still did not have the support of all Democrats. As Cannan put it:

“Democrats unhappy with the legislation’s initial form were unwilling to block its path to consideration, but they threatened to filibuster if changes were not made. Reid had to have the support of each one to get to a vote. While Republicans had not dug in their heels to fight the motion to proceed, hoping to tarnish vulnerable Democrats by forcing them to vote in a way that could be characterized as a substantive vote for the health care bill, they would not be so accommodating with the next cloture motion, and they were united in their opposition.”

So consideration of the bill “proceeded on two parallel tracks,” starting when the Senate returned to work on Nov. 30. The first track was public, with the illusion of debate and votes on amendments. The official record shows 506 amendments were offered.

Cannan says this activity suggests “a vigorous effort to alter the bill’s final form on the Senate floor. But this number is deceptive. In actuality, only a tiny fraction of these amendments has any significance” to the bill’s legislative history. Only a handful of amendments covered by a unanimous consent agreement (UCA) reached between the two sides had any relevance, he concluded. Meanwhile, “all of those amendments not covered by UCAs were ordered to lie on the table as soon as they were introduced and had no parliamentary standing at all.”

That’s because the real work was going on behind closed doors, back in Reid’s office, where he negotiated significant changes with a group of moderate Democrats. Eventually, Republicans and Democrats would no longer agree to even keep debating the matter on the floor, and so the public spectacle ended on Dec. 16. The Senate turned to other matters, including passage of a Defense Department appropriations bill, while the private negotiations continued and the Senate remained in session.

During the private talks, Reid agreed to remove a public option in the bill, as well as drop a plan to allow people between the ages of 55 and 65 to buy into Medicare. There was also a significant change in abortion coverage, which The Washington Post reported required hours of Schumer’s and Reid’s shuttling back and forth in Reid’s offices between antiabortion Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) and key supporters of abortion rights, Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Patty Murray (D-Wash.), who never sat in the same room as Nelson. Some lawmakers, like the now-retired Nelson, cut special deals. Nelson negotiated enhanced Medicaid reimbursement for his state.

Once the deals were in hand, Reid on Dec. 19 revealed a manager’s amendment revising the proposed bill, which was also scored by the CBO. He filed three successive cloture motions to end debate on the revised manager’s amendment, on his original amendment and on the original House bill. He also filed three other amendments that had the effect of “filling the amendment tree” — cutting off opportunities for the Republicans to alter the text.

Just as McConnell appears to be determined to have a vote before the July 4 holiday so that lawmakers don’t get nervous after confrontations with constituents, Reid pushed forward with a vote before Christmas. Republicans cried foul. “I do not remember, in my 15 years in the Congress, both in the House and in the Senate, any major piece of legislation such as this being debated and ultimately brought to a final vote within such a short period of time,” declared Saxby Chambliss, at the time a senator from Georgia.

Over three successive days, the Senate took a series of votes, all of them split 60 to 39, to deal with Reid’s various amendments. Washington was snowbound, and delaying tactics by Republicans meant votes took place as late as 1 a.m., forcing the 92-year-old, wheelchair-reliant Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) — who had missed 40 percent of the roll call votes that year — to make a late-night journey through the snow and ice. One Republican, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), even offered a prayer to stall the vote. “What the American people ought to pray is that somebody can’t make the vote tonight,” he said. “That’s what they ought to pray.” (One housekeeping item: Renaming the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009 to The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.)

Final passage came with on a 7 a.m. vote Christmas Eve morning.

All told, from the Friday night, Dec. 18, when Nelson and Boxer agreed to abortion language, to the Thursday morning/Christmas Eve of final passage, there were about five days of consideration for the final bill in the Senate.