<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 25 2007, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JO is starting to play now with injury. He's not being a baby anymore. Oden and Peirce would be a great duo - but you don't know how long it would take for that to get you wins. At least with Jermaine you get a pretty much guarenteed top 5 playoff spot in the East.If Jamaal got a tough black (he'd probably listen better to his own race (not racist)) coach on his rear end he would probably become a lot more disceplened and mature.Plus we take on the expiring contracts of theo and wally and you get rid of them.</div>Here's the thing, though... it wouldn't just be Pierce, Oden, and that's it. Are you forgetting about Al Jefferson? He is playing at an All-Star level right now, without question. Wally coming back. Good role players like Delonte West and Ryan Gomes. Guys like Rondo, Green, Perkins, Telfair getting better. Tony Allen coming back, eventually. I mean it wouldn't be Pierce/Oden, it would be Pierce/Big Al/Oden.Tinsley listening better to a black coach? Yeah... that's not a racist comment (sarcasm). Are you also forgetting that Doc is an idiot?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Mar 25 2007, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's the thing, though... it wouldn't just be Pierce, Oden, and that's it. Are you forgetting about Al Jefferson? He is playing at an All-Star level right now, without question. Wally coming back. Good role players like Delonte West and Ryan Gomes. Guys like Rondo, Green, Perkins, Telfair getting better. Tony Allen coming back, eventually. I mean it wouldn't be Pierce/Oden, it would be Pierce/Big Al/Oden.</div>It sounds nice, but the core you mentioned wouldn't contend for at least 5 years. I dunno what you guys want: instant success or success a long time from now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It sounds nice, but the core you mentioned wouldn't contend for at least 5 years. I dunno what you guys want: instant success or success a long time from now.</div>Have you seen the Celtics roster? Of course they are pushing for long term success.
Basically no team has a chance except Orlando because I wouldn't even consider it for anyone except Dwight Howard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Mar 25 2007, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Chicago would do the 2nd pick for Gasol...if somehow the salaries worked.</div>Nope. Realistically, the only player that would be worth dealing the first for if you had the 1st pick (or 2nd) would be Lebron. And he is untouchable as well.
I think Chicago will, if Durant and Oden came out, Oden will most likely be taken 1st. Does chicago really need another perimeter player? No, they need a scoring big man. I think unless they can get ahold of Oden, Chicago will end up trading their pick..to memphis or not...thats just my opinion.
I would trade this years #1 for many even though I am high on Oden.Lebron, Wade, Melo, Dwight, Bosh, Chris Paul some younger ones.And a few players that only if they were younger are: Kobe, AI, Duncan, KGBut this year only for those young gunners I said.
If Greg Oden and Kevin Durant enter the draft, NO team would trade the #1 and #2 picks away for anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 25 2007, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It sounds nice, but the core you mentioned wouldn't contend for at least 5 years. I dunno what you guys want: instant success or success a long time from now.</div>You think Paul Pierce, Al Jefferson, Greg Oden, Delonte West, Wally Szczerbiak, Tony Allen, Rajon Rondo, and probably another veteran would take 5 years to contend? In the East? Give me a break.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Mar 26 2007, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You think Paul Pierce, Al Jefferson, Greg Oden, Delonte West, Wally Szczerbiak, Tony Allen, Rajon Rondo, and probably another veteran would take 5 years to contend? In the East? Give me a break.</div>Yes it would. Lets compare them with the Heat:Rondo vs Williams - winner is HeatDelonte vs Wade - winner is the HeatPierce vs Walker - winner is the CelticsJefferson vs Haslem - tieShaq vs Oden - tieCelics - 3 pointsHeat - 4 pointsLets compare them with Detroit: Rondo vs Billups - winner is DetroitDelonte vs Rip - winner is DetroitPierce vs Prince - winner is CelticsJefferson vs Rasheed - winner is DetroitMohammed vs Oden - winner is CelticsCeltics - 2 pointsDetroit - 3 points
^Too bad winning in the NBA is not determined by each position individually numbnuts. It's how they play as a team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 26 2007, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Too bad winning in the NBA is not determined by each position individually numbnuts. It's how they play as a team.</div>And I think we can agree that the Pistons and Heat play as a team. The Celtics are completely dysfunctional as a team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And I think we can agree that the Pistons and Heat play as a team. The Celtics are completely dysfunctional as a team.</div>At this point, yes easily but were not talking about these teams at this point. It's apparent with you putting Oden on the Celts roster. How about thinking about that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 26 2007, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Greg Oden and Kevin Durant enter the draft, NO team would trade the #1 and #2 picks away for anything.</div>Umm Yeah they would for a few prooven guys like Lebron, Wade, Melo, Dwight, Bosh young proven stars.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 25 2007, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jermaine + Peirce = top 5 team in EastJamaal is better than any other pg you have right now.</div>I think that the Celtics would rather give minutes to their young, up and coming pg's than trade for a worse first rounder, and two players that are past their primes. The Celtics have a chance to land an amazing player with their pick (it will most likely be a top 2 the way things are looking), and the player they would be getting would be just as infulential as Jermaine in max 2 years. This trade would be dumb.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 26 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes it would. Lets compare them with the Heat:Rondo vs Williams - winner is HeatDelonte vs Wade - winner is the HeatPierce vs Walker - winner is the CelticsJefferson vs Haslem - tieShaq vs Oden - tieCelics - 3 pointsHeat - 4 pointsLets compare them with Detroit: Rondo vs Billups - winner is DetroitDelonte vs Rip - winner is DetroitPierce vs Prince - winner is CelticsJefferson vs Rasheed - winner is DetroitMohammed vs Oden - winner is CelticsCeltics - 2 pointsDetroit - 3 points</div>CB32 didnt say they would win a championship. He said they would contend. You cant count the Celtics out of a seeding next year. The Atlantic will get a bit interesting next year actually.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 28 2007, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>CB32 didnt say they would win a championship. He said they would contend. You cant count the Celtics out of a seeding next year. The Atlantic will get a bit interesting next year actually.</div>yeah, to the people who's team play in it
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 28 2007, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, to the people who's team play in it </div>Yeah but it really changes the Eastern Conferance alot. If Boston beats us for first in the Atlantic, we get a 7th seed, meaning we have an even harder chance than this year of getting pass the first round.
