First let me just say..I have always supported Sheed. I love his emotion. The guy is cool and funny as well.However, to me with the way the guy is playing..I think he is hurting the team and is the only player holding us back from greatness to a certain extent. he has lost us quite a few games this year with his reckless turnaround 40 foot brick 3's.I just can't take it anymore, it annoys me so much. He'd be great off the bench for us next year with Dice I think. Assuming we are able to keep Webber, I'd love to see:BillupsRipTayMaxiellWebberAnd Sheed and Dice coming in to relieve the bigs. If Sheed had the hot hand when he came in..give him some more minutes...if he doesn't then sit him back down. He has already said at this point in his career he wouldn't mind comin off the bench. I'd rather see Webber on the floor then Rasheed at the end of the game when we are trailing to get some buckets. Last night with under 3 minutes to go he took like 5 shots in a row and killed us and took us right out of it.So what do we do with Sheed? Does he have any value at all in which we could move him for anybody?
I don't think he has any trade value. Any mentoring capabilities a veteran like him has are nullified by his attitude. Sheed was at his peak value for the Pistons at the exact time we got him. I'd prefer us to grab a better PF then Maxiell. I don't think that Jason is fully developed on the offensive end yet. He'll be the starter eventually, but I don't think he has his full offensive skill set yet. We need our PF to give us that 15/8 consistency that I don't think he can do especially with our offense scrounging for points. We might need a scorer over a defender at PF.
I dunno, obviously Maxiell isn't READY to start..but that doesn't mean he shouldn't. The guy needs to get some in game experience if we want him to eventually start for us.Who knows maybe Amir could start for us soon too. That kid is gonna be a superstar...I'd say he's much further away from getting minutes then Maxiell is.As we learned last FA period. The market is very light. And if we use the MLE to keep Webber..we'll have little money left.
I say keep Sheed in there, he helps the team more than he hurts the team imo. I hate those turnaround 3s too but there's something about every player I hate and you just have to live with it. Maxiell is a nice player but isn't ready to start and Sheed still means a lot to this team.
I never really thought about Rasheed not starting next year. But, it makes a ton of sense.If we keep McDyess, I'd hope for him to start.Rasheed is far too streaky of a shooter. We need him to stay consistantly good, and chances are that's not going to happen. So the bench would be the place to put him. All of his technicals are really hurting too. 18 this year.
Sheed deserved some of those techs but not all of them, especially the last 2-3 have been BS techs, I mean cmon taunting the crowd too much or w/e??? And Sheed brings more to this team other than shots, he's a big presence in the middle on the defensive side of the ball and has been playing really good D lately. Sometimes you hate the shots that he takes but no one is perfect, I hate how sometimes Webber holds on to the ball too much, how rip is a turnover queen, how Tayshaun isn't aggressive all the time, and how chauncey....um.... well you get the point. Dice has made it clear he doesn't want to start and to start him early next season it would be really bad because he doesn't work out during the summers and he would just be really sluggish like every year. Besides that Houston game I have been really happy with Sheed's play lately and don't see why everyone or anyone else isn't.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 24 2007, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sheed deserved some of those techs but not all of them, the last 2-3 have been BS techs, I mean cmon taunting the crowd too much or w/e??? And Sheed brings more to this team other than shots, he's a big presence in the middle on the defensive side of the ball and has been playing really good D lately. Sometimes you hate the shots that he takes but no one is perfect, I hate how sometimes Webber holds on to the ball too much, how rip is a turnover queen, how Tayshaun isn't aggressive all the time, and how chauncey....um.... well you get the point. Dice has made it clear he doesn't want to start and to start him early next season it would be really bad because he doesn't work out during the summers and he would just be really sluggish like every year. Besides that Houston game I have been really happy with Sheed's play lately and don't see why everyone or anyone else isn't.</div>
I really would like Amir to get solid minutes next season. With Davis, and maybe Nazr gone, that could clear up some big man minutes.
Starting Maxiell next year is definitely a possibility. How would Rasheed react to coming off of the bench though? I know he's said he wouldn't mind, but saying and doing are to different things.I don't think McDyess would start, but him and Sheed coming off the bench would be great. If Sheed does well in that role, we give him more minutes.As for his trade value, we couldn't get much. Think about what we traded for him, that's around what we'd get, maybe even worse. So, IMO, trading him is a bad idea.I'd love for Amir to get some minutes next year, but I don't think he'll get much. 5-7 a night would be fine with me. At the end of this year, when we are resting our starters, I really hope he can get some time.
^Hell Yeah Maxiell looked good today. I would just love if he got more minutes. 19 pts and 15 boards is great.
He played against Milwaukee without Villanueva and Bogut. I'm not taking away or dissin Maxiell or anything but you guys are underestimating what Sheed brings to this team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 25 2007, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He played against Milwaukee without Villanueva and Bogut. I'm not taking away or dissin Maxiell or anything but you guys are underestimating what Sheed brings to this team.</div>What does he bring besides the below average 3-Point percentage, the lack of production from the post, and the technical foul debocles?
He Brings everything anyone ever wanted in a big man. but at an inconsistent basis. and what he does for us is underestimated as DTP said.Sheed is very inconsistant, which does hurt us a bit, but he plays more well than he does bad.We dont need to do anything to him though. he's holding us back at all either. with all of our other players stepping up like JMax, Delfino, Dyess, and Flip, the inconsistent void of Sheed and all of the other guys' inconsistent play is filled.we are only going to get better at this point and I think with guys stepping up to help win games is only going to make us do that.
I like Sheed. I think he can still contribute. Like I said though, as inconsistent as he is, and the kinds of things he brings..he'd be much better suited coming off the bench. Bring in Sheed for some tough defense. Bring in Sheed for some bench ENERGY! Bring in Sheed to take it in the post and try and draw a foul to get somebody out of the game. And yes..to shoot some 3's..because he can hit them when he's open and hot.I don't think I want him traded...as said there is little value there. And having somebody that earns that much come off the bench is a bit far-fetched. However, when you consider it as something that is best for the team..I say we do it..or at least try it out.
Everyone on this team is inconsistent besides maybe Rip so do Flip bench Tayshaun for Delfino and Chauncey for Flip or Lindsey? No, its just something you have to stick with. I know that come playoffs time Sheed will step it up, I can't say the same about Jmax. Jmax is doing a nice solid job off the bench, just keep him coming off the bench until its time for him to start which is not this or next year.
<span style="color:#008080">I love sheed and he was awesome today in the 4th against the cavs, when he posts up hes deadly, max is fine coming off the bench, if sheed isnt doing to great then max can come in and be that spark, I would never wanna see sheed go anywhere even if those 3s tick me off sometimes, hes a vital piece in the pistons success, and 1 more 3 and hes hit 100</span>
I wouldn't give Sheed that much credit, he got 4 points off a very poor low post defense. But nice win for Detroit, James just chocked at the damn line.
