<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 25 2007, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Reading over, I think you two need to not reply to each other for a while.Anyways, this seems like a fun topic so I will put my two cent in on who I would take for the Magic. Since our biggest need is a scorer on the wings that can hit the three and hit shots late in the game, I would take a prime Reggie Miller for my team. He doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, he can move without the ball, come off picks, and play the catch and shoot game which would allow Dwight to have a bigger impact on games. I would take him over Jordan, or any other player in NBA hisotry for my Magic team this year.</div>NO. You cannot have Reggie!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 25 2007, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>NO. You cannot have Reggie!!!</div>Lol haha. But I would say Reggie would be a good fit for the magic as well. It helps spread the defense and Miller can shoot as many 3s as he want knowing that Dwight will be there for a put back.
Charles Barkley. Good offensive threat, gets rid of Nene which is ok, and adds a good defensive threat.BlakeAI'MeloBarkleyCambyOr Stockton, pass first point guard to replace Blake. Can score when needed.StocktonAI'MeloNeneCambyThis is kind of a meaningless topic, but it is fun to think about how good a team would be.
Team 1G- Steve BlakeSG- Allen IversonSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- Marcus CambyC- Hakeem OlajuwonTeam 2G- Jason Kidd (prime)SG- Allen IversonSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- NeneC- Marcus CambyTeam 3G- Allen IversonSG- Joe DumarsSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- NeneC- Marcus Camby
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Mar 25 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Team 1G- Steve BlakeSG- Allen IversonSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- Marcus CambyC- Hakeem OlajuwonTeam 2G- Jason Kidd (prime)SG- Allen IversonSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- NeneC- Marcus CambyTeam 3G- Allen IversonSG- Joe DumarsSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- NeneC- Marcus Camby</div>PG- Allen IversonSG- JordanSF- Carmelo AnthonyPF- NeneC- Marcus CambyDAMNhaha it be great if AI got to play with Kareem LOL
I'd actually love to see Young Penny Hardaway play alongside Dwight Howard and the 2007 Magic. I think they would go far.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Mar 26 2007, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd actually love to see Young Penny Hardaway play alongside Dwight Howard and the 2007 Magic. I think they would go far.</div>Not me, as good as Penny Hardaway looked, I would take Reggie Miller over him any day of the week. Plus back then Penny and Coach Hill did not get along. So him on todays team would be a mess, and create the same argument from years ago. So I would rather him stay off this Magic team. Plus what made him look good was Shaq, without Shaq he would have never looked as good as he did early in his career.
Uhhh no it wasn't Shaq Penny was a great player who's style of play often reminded many of Magic Johnson. I know this thread is about just adding anybody but Ill agree with you on the Coach part. Reggie Miller would fit in with the Phenox Suns easily though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Mar 26 2007, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhhh no it wasn't Shaq Penny was a great player who's style of play often reminded many of Magic Johnson. I know this thread is about just adding anybody but Ill agree with you on the Coach part. Reggie Miller would fit in with the Phenox Suns easily though.</div>I don't see how Penny's style of play reminded many of Magic Johnson, you must have read that somewhere and never seen him play. Sure he was a tall point guard just like Magic was, but he wasn't the pass first type of point guard Magic was, he couldn't make the passes Magic could make, and he took alot more jump shots than Magic Johnson took in his career. Their styles of play were different.As for the Shaq part, Penny averaged career high's in points per game, assists per game, steals per game, and field goal percentage when Shaq was his teamate. Without Shaq he had a much harder time creating for himself, a much harder time being able to score, and ended up getting hurt with all the punishment he was receiving without Shaq there. Another great example of him not being as good without Shaq's drawing of double teams is the Rockets series that they got swept. The Rockets didn't double Shaq, and Penny was being guarded alot closer, and didn't do to well that series at all. Infact, no one on the team except Shaq did well that series, because they were all made from his constant drawing of double teams. Shaq easily amde Penny look better than he really was.
PG-Larry HughesSG-Micheal JordanSF-LeBron JamesPF-Drew GoodenC-ZEven though Cleveland lacks defensive bigs, having Jordan and LeBron on the same team is just amazing. I can see us only losing a few games during the season I mean it is Jordan. I don't know why any team wouldn't just take him over anyone else no matter what you're biggest need is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Mar 26 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG-Larry HughesSG-Micheal JordanSF-LeBron JamesPF-Drew GoodenC-ZEven though Cleveland lacks defensive bigs, having Jordan and LeBron on the same team is just amazing. I can see us only losing a few games during the season I mean it is Jordan. I don't know why any team wouldn't just take him over anyone else no matter what you're biggest need is.</div>Because sometimes Jordan is going to hurt what your strengths are, because he is one that is going to be more effective with the ball in his hands. With the Magic, our strength is going to be Dwight Howard, so you are going to want to make sure he touches the ball alot in the post. With Miller, he can create without the ball, Jordan can do the same, but not nearly as well as Miller moved and created off the ball. That is why I would not take Jordan. And after that, if I was starting a team, assuming neither would leave my team I would take a rookie Shaq over Jordan any day of the week to start any team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 26 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because sometimes Jordan is going to hurt what your strengths are, because he is one that is going to be more effective with the ball in his hands. With the Magic, our strength is going to be Dwight Howard, so you are going to want to make sure he touches the ball alot in the post. With Miller, he can create without the ball, Jordan can do the same, but not nearly as well as Miller moved and created off the ball. That is why I would not take Jordan. And after that, if I was starting a team, assuming neither would leave my team I would take a rookie Shaq over Jordan any day of the week to start any team.</div>You got a point, but I would still take Jordan and have LeBron on my team. James loves to pass and having Jordan on his team is just awesome. And people keep saying how Hughes is a 3rd scorer, well now he can be and is. We also can feed Z down low to get more offense going.Also, Love you're Sig! Hopefully Cleveland can make the finals. :happy0144:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see how Penny's style of play reminded many of Magic Johnson</div>Penny's style of play was always compared to Magic..Know how I know because the announcers use to talk about it. They would ask him about the comparasons during interviews back in his younger days. He was's as tall as Magic but he was a great passer, He could shoot the ball really well, Drive the lane, Play defense. He was a phenomal player with and without Shaq. If you don't believe me google it.
You listened to the announcers, I grew up in Orlando and have watched almost every Magic game since 1990. The fact is that he was a tall point guard like Magic, and that was about it. Magic was a pass first type of guy, someone who always looked to get his teamates involved, and rarely took threes. Just look at the fact that only three times in his career did he take over 58 three point shots in a season. Penny was someone who took alot of three's, and looked to score first, then pass the ball. Sure they could both drive, and both could pass decently well, but Penny wasn't half the passer that Magic was. That is why once he left Orlando he never played point guard, because he was a score first, pass second kind of guy. As for the stats you want to see to prove that Penny was better with Shaq than without, and that Shaq made his career, I will do that to.1995-96(With Shaq): 21.7 points per game, 4.3 rebounds per game, 7.1 assists, 2.0 steals, and shot 51.3 percent from the field.http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/1996.html1996-97(Without Shaq): 20.5 points per game, 4.5 rebounds per game, 5.6 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and shot 44.7 percent from the field. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/1997.htmlI even put reference sites in there for you. Without shaq he went down in almost every category the next year. Shaq opened up lots for Hardaway, and made him look better than he really was. His drawing double teams helped Penny to be able to catch other teams in loose defenses. Next time you might want to google it yourself before telling someone else to go check stats.
Pistons: Hakeem OlajuwonBillups / Acie Law IV / HunterHamilton / Murray / Will BlalockPrince / Maxiell / DelfinoSheed / McDyess / Amir JohnsonOlajuwon / Webber / NazrBig scoring/defensive presence to replace Ben, killer lineup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>1995-96(With Shaq): 21.7 points per game, 4.3 rebounds per game, 7.1 assists, 2.0 steals, and shot 51.3 percent from the field.http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/1996.html1996-97(Without Shaq): 20.5 points per game, 4.5 rebounds per game, 5.6 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and shot 44.7 percent from the field.http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/1997.html</div>That's not much of a differernce. So he was averaging a little more stats with Shaq then without him. Those are still good stats from Penny Hardaway.
